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Psychedelic Salon

Podcast 468 – “Investigating Life – Part 2”

Psychedelic Salon

Lorenzo Hagerty

Science, Philosophy, Natural Sciences, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.8568 Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2015

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

Guest speaker: Peter Gorman PROGRAM NOTES: “I have never gone to bed in Peru without having learned something new that day.” -Peter Gorman Today’s podcast features the second part of an interview with Peter Gorman, one of the larger-than-life figures to be found among our psychedelic elders. The program begins by picking up with a story about river pirates in the Amazon, migrates to tales of running a bar in the jungle town of Iquitos, Peru that was frequented by DEA agents, and continues with Peter talking about his interactions with luminaries such as Albert Hofmann, Alan Ginsberg, Ken Kesey, Timothy Leary, and Terence McKenna. Also, Peter talks about his new book “Sapo In My Soul”, which is the first book to be published about this interesting medicine. Of interest to our younger saloners will be his telling of how, as a young man himself, he financed his trips to the Amazon and the methods he used to search for medicinal plants in the jungle. Download MP3 PCs – Right click, select option Macs – Ctrl-Click, select option Peter Gorman’s Web Site Sapo In My Soul: The Matsés Frog Medicine By Peter Gorman Ayahuasca in My Blood: 25 Years of Medicine Dreaming By Peter Gorman

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0:00.0

Greetings from

0:03.0

Greetings from Cyberdelic Spaces

0:20.0

This is Lorenzo and I'm your host here in the psychedelic salon.

0:24.0

And the first thing that I need to do today, at least according to my wife, is, well, to apologize to you for what I did last week when I more or less cut off the story just at its most exciting point.

0:38.1

As you already know, well, I had my own childish reason for doing that.

0:42.9

But after seeing a look on my wife's face when she discovered that I'd ended the podcast a little prematurely,

0:49.5

well, that look told me all that I needed to know about how most likely you felt about it as well.

0:55.8

And if you can accept my apology, while knowing that, well, I'm not actually sorry for doing that.

1:03.4

Well, then you most definitely must be a psychedelic thinker because you are someone who isn't afraid of what Terrence McKenna called,

1:11.6

the Coincidentia Apositorum.

1:14.8

Now, in just a moment, I'm going to replay the part of the story that we ended with last week,

1:20.3

and you will finally learn how it came out.

1:23.6

For what it's worth, Peter Gorman's encounter with the pirates, though,

1:27.3

was significantly more dangerous than that of the old lion-tamer Clyde's swinging on a vine.

1:34.6

And in case you're wondering what happened to Clyde when his vine broke, well, as it happened, well, there was a little ledge just below him when it broke, and he landed safely on it.

1:45.9

I don't remember what happened after that, because there was this big collective moan from the audience.

1:51.2

Well, we all went home swearing that we would never again watch a to-be-continued movie.

1:56.9

Of course, none of us held to that promise the next weekend.

2:01.2

Now, not to overdo this too much, but Peter Gorman has played a major, and I say a major role,

2:09.1

in bringing ayahuasca into mainstream discussions, and in creating a public atmosphere in which

2:14.9

we are now seeing cannabis becoming legal throughout the U.S.

2:18.8

And on top of that, it is Peter who has brought Sappho or Cambo to us here in the West.

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