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Psychedelic Salon

Podcast 391 – “Nothing Lasts”

Psychedelic Salon

Lorenzo Hagerty

Science, Philosophy, Natural Sciences, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.8568 Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2014

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: [NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.] “I have been underwhelmed by the accomplishments of Indian spirituality, personally; overwhelmed by the accomplishments of Amazonian spirituality.” “I'm also very suspicious of secrets. I mean, if you tell me one it's finished. I took a pledge long ago to tell all secrets as quickly as possible. . . . Secrets are a way of controlling other people.” “Post-historical existence would be non-linear. People would live in time the way now live in space.” “That's how I think of psychedelics. When I say boundary dissolution, the real boundaries I'm talking about are the boundaries of dimensionality. The way a shaman is able to do what shamans do is by transcending Newtonian space and time.” “Here's my model: The mind is like a crystal growing under pressure, and the pressure is the pressure of Newtonian space/time. And so the crystal grows and takes the shape of its confinement. But when you liquefy the crystal matrix with a psychedelic, it has another preferred geometry. And it unfolds into this second geometry. And the second and alternative geometry is more hyper-spacial. Culturally, our minds are confined by cultural pressure and cultural phase-space to reflect cultural concerns. . . . When you take a psychedelic and you dissolve the confinement . . . then it's like taking [the mind] out of its box, and it can configure itself in a more comfortable geometry, and it's free.” “In a sense, chess is like good practice for shamanism, because good chess players see deeply into the future. That's how you win chess games.” Download MP3 PCs – Right click, select option Macs – Ctrl-Click, select option Interview with Shonagh Home on Shamanic Freedom Radio Podcast 360 with Shonagh Home – “Medicine Oracle & Spellbreaker”

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0:00.0

Greetings from

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Greetings from

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musical

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linguistic

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art chicks

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and

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Greetings from

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Cyrodelex space

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This is Lorenzo and I'm your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

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And before we get into today's program, which is the final session of the Terrence McKenna workshop that we've been listening to,

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I first want to give you a little update on our Fun Drive.

0:35.7

As you know, for a number of reasons, I've decided to

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no longer accept donations throughout the year. The primary reason being that, well, there are

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some months during which we receive more donations than we need to pay the expenses associated

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with these podcasts, and then there are some months when I've got to make up the difference

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out of my own pocket.

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I actually only began accepting donations after I've been doing these podcasts for, well, about three years or so,

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and at that point I had to again upgrade my servers in order to keep up with the increased number of downloads each month.

1:14.7

But eventually we had to upgrade to a dedicated server of our own due to the large number of downloads each month. But eventually, we had to upgrade to a dedicated server of our own due to the large number of simultaneous connections.

1:16.7

Since in addition to downloading programs, there is now also a large number of people

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concurrently streaming a program to their phones.

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But getting back to my point, it's been kind of stressful wondering

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