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I don't want to be one of those people, but often I fall into the trap of it, where I invite an author on to talk about a book, which is their project, their work.

You work on a book for so long, and then you birth it out into the world, and you want it to be taken,

you want it to spread, and you want to share it, and especially a book on faith, a book on Christianity,

a book on the threat to America. This, a book on the threat to America.

This one in particular, pagan threat, confronting America's godless uprising by Pastor

Lucas Miles of T.P. USA, the forward by Charlie Kurt.

But in so doing, sometimes if that person has an interesting background or everything that's going

on with TPSA, it's easy to get distracted. I am fascinated by what's in this book, so let's talk about that, Pastor Lucas

Miles. Pagan threat. Why do you use the word pagan threat as opposed to there are some

alternatives that come to mind? Talk a little bit about that if you would. Yeah, first of all, thanks for having me on and giving me an opportunity to talk about it. And also an opportunity to talk about Charlie. Both things are important at once. And, you know, it's an honor to be with you. When you, when you look at where we're at as a society, this word pagan doesn't get used very much anymore. of an old esoteric word you know you might

think of zeus or odin or you know the greek you know pantheon of gods um and to some degree

that is what i'm writing about but i think it's more than that so i'm using pagan it's sort of a

broad blanket term and and one of the reasons i wanted to nod to that word as a general descriptor of this post-Christian,

you know, revival that's taking place is that this is very similar to what the early church went

through in pagan Rome as the gospel was first taking root.

There's not been a time in history since the days in Rome where Christianity has been vilified to the extent that it is today

in our current society.

Back in early Rome in the first several centuries,

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