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The Michael Very show is on the air.

Justin Duncan is our guest.

He is doing a new one-man show on the great Thomas Soul.

When I asked the question, it was because I'm genuinely thinking about how I would do it if I were doing it.

I don't have the acting skill you do,

but I research people. I study them. I say I take them apart and put them back together. I'm

fascinated by not just what people have to say, especially someone like Seoul who has so much to say,

but how they arrived at that. You know, his experience with Milton Friedman and having been in Friedman's class at

University of Chicago, and he says, but I left the class and I was still a liberal. And he goes to

work for the labor department and then he realizes that the labor department does not care about

black people or employees, both of whom they claim to, and that when he pointed out that the data was actually harmful to these people from what they were recommending, that they said that doesn't matter. And that was the moment. That was his aha moment. That was his Eureka. Oh, my goodness. These people don't believe anything they're saying and it it

it transformed him and he he went on to be the man he is today you know i i think that's just

absolutely fascinating and and that tells you this man wasn't born into this right i mean i've made

a transformation in my life from from what i think and and where I am and most of us have and in his I think

that will I can sorry I'm thinking and planning this this project for you I'm writing it in my

head Clifton right now as we talk and and I'm just imagining you have such a great opportunity

to tell that is just that is that is fantastic. So what does it look like? I mean,

will this be a, will you go on tour? Because if you do, we're coordinating Houston for you.

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