Hello and welcome to another bonus episode of the new abnormal and we thank you so much for being here.

Today we have an extremely special guest. We're going to air

part two of our interview with Andy Slavitt, who is of course the senior advisor to the White House

his pandemic response who resigned this week and he's going to talk to us about his new book

preventable. The inside story of how leadership failures, politics and selfishness

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the things that I think is amazing is that we've really seen the private sector do not you know

all of these times of the Trump administrations and I say this is someone who's made to

venture capitalist so I always you know I've always for so long heard that like business can do good

but business really did not do good. I want to move on because so now you're at a place where

vaccinations have you got like more than 50% of America vaccinated but certain people seem

still very hesitant. Where do you go from here? Well first of all be making common business

piece when you can keep or not if you like right why didn't business respond because the president

basically told his team this is not this is not going to end any day now. Right. This is not a

crisis. So imagine you're working for president who said that you can't then call some companies

that can help you and say hey we have an issue can you help because you can't acknowledge the problem

so on my very first day on January 20th I got called from loads of CEOs from companies saying hey

we have not had the ability to help we want to help and the thing about a pandemic is if you really

are any crisis pulling people together and saying we need your help people feel when they feel

that sense of purpose then they don't actually sit in Lalo and attack each other etc. So our

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