Pleas Please Me, Jenna Ellis
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 25 October 2023
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Another morning, another surprise plea deal in Fulton County Superior Court. It was Jenna Ellis this time, in front of Judge Scott McAfee, pleading out of the Fulton County election interference case. There was a tearful colloquy and a letter of apology to the people of Georgia. There is a cooperation agreement of some kind, and there is yet another sentence of probation.
Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down to talk about it all with Lawfare Legal Fellow Anna Bower. They talked about how big a deal Jenna Ellis could be for Fani Willis, about how the DA's record is stacking up, about who might be next, and about who's going to hold out and force this whole thing to trial.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. I think that she can speak not only to you know the |
| 0:37.5 | Giuliani element of coming down to Georgia being at these hearings that |
| 0:42.9 | happened in December in which Giuliani and others were making false claims to |
| 0:49.1 | Georgia state officials in an effort to persuade them to call a special session of the general |
| 0:56.6 | assembly and then you know appoint Trump electors but she also can speak directly to things |
| 1:02.8 | that Trump was doing and some of these over acts that are alleged in the indictment. |
| 1:08.0 | I'm Benjamin Whittes and this is the LawFair podcast October 25th, 2023. Another |
| 1:17.3 | morning another surprise plea deal in Fulton County Superior Court. Jenna Ellis this time in front |
| 1:25.0 | of Judge Scott McAfee pleading out of the Fulton County election interference case. There was a |
| 1:33.1 | tearful colloquy. There was a letter of apology to the people of Georgia. There is a cooperation |
| 1:41.6 | agreement of some kind and there is yet another sentence of probation joining me in the |
| 1:49.6 | virtual jungle studio to talk about it all. It's LawFair's Fulton County correspondent Anna |
| 1:55.5 | Bauer. We talked about how big a deal Jenna Ellis could be for Fanny Willis. We talked |
| 2:01.9 | about how the DA's record is stacking up. We talked about who might be next and we talked |
| 2:10.4 | about who's going to hold out and force this whole thing to trial. It's the LawFair podcast October |
| 2:16.8 | 25th. Please please me Jenna Ellis. I want to start with a disclosure which is that I know only |
| 2:27.8 | about today's plea. What has come across my phone in the form of news alerts because I've been at |
| 2:36.0 | a conference all day and so I know Jenna Ellis pled out but I am really in a position to impart |
| 2:42.0 | no useful information to the general public here. So Anna what happened? Right well as you know Ben |
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