Playing cards. Known for having numbers. Famous for having faces sometimes. Nobody thinks much about them, so let's have some fun. Let's find out why playing cards are secretly incredibly fascinating. Fascinating.

Hey there, folks.

Welcome to a whole new podcast episode, a podcast all about why being alive is more interesting than people think it is.

My name is Alex Schmidt, and I'm not alone. My guest today are Jordan Cowling and Teresa Lee.

Jordan Cowling is an amazing podcast guest and creator and producer. She's an associate producer of multiple great podcasts at the Maximum Fun Network, such as Fantai, which is a great

show hosted by Travel Anderson and Jared Hill, exploring problematic faves and so much more.

She's also an associate producer for The Flop House, which is a podcast about

bad movies. And one of the hosts there is Elliot Kalin. I hope you've heard the Musk Oxen episode

of this show. Elliot is a guest there. Along with Jordan, I'm also joined by Teresa Lee. She is a

fantastic stand-up comedian. Her new album is called We're Still Doing This. It's out right now.

You can hear it for free on stuff like Spotify. We'll also link ways you can get it directly from her and support her comedy and help her make chunks of great stuff like that.

Teresa Lee is many other things, too. She's a podcaster with her show You Can Tell Me Anything. She's a former colleague of mine at the former workplace crack.com, and she's very kind to

make time for guesting on this show right here. Also, I've gathered all of our zip codes

and used internet resources like native-land.ca to acknowledge that I recorded this on the

traditional land of the Kataba, Ino, and Shikori peoples.

Acknowledged Jordan and Teresa each recorded this on the traditional land of the Gabrielina

Wartongva and Kich and Chumash peoples. And acknowledge that in all of our locations,

native people are very much still here.

That feels worth doing on each episode.

And today's episode is about playing cards, as in the noun, the object.

And thank you to listener Alexander Reichard for this suggestion.

It won the runoff poll for April.

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