I don't know how many weeks ago was that there. I was preaching several weeks ago. It just came to me, so I said it. And I said, hey, you know, God has a sense of humor. Why do you think there's farts? I don't know. There you go. I just said it and you're laughing. I don't know anybody. I don't know anybody who doesn't laugh at a fart. No, everybody, we don't appreciate it when it's somebody else's fart and it's

in my house, but we all, we all laugh. And I think for churchy people or just serious-minded people,

that kind of thinking is so weird. And I just want to say, no, it's weird that you can't see

the hardwiring that we all have for humor and play. We've got to embrace it.

Welcome to the aggressive life.

Dirt, we're going to have some fun today.

I cannot wait for this one.

It has been a long time coming.

We have worked on getting this guest for a long time.

Years, I think, years.

Yeah, it's not that often I have a guest who i could tell him as i just did before he started recording is that you're one of the few people who've actually changed my

life that's right yeah totally changed my life anybody on my downline their life has changed because

this man's work and its message is uh run, deep, refreshing spring of life through my life.

If you've listed this podcast, you've heard me at one point bring up the work and research

of our guest. He's been incredibly influential in a lot of folks live. His name is Dr. Stuart

Brown. He's the founder of the National

Institute for Play. I just love that. National Institute for Play. He's dedicated his

professional career to studying play and its importance in our lives. He dives into questions like

what actually makes an activity play. How does play actually influence our health

and well-being? And what happens when play is suppressed? His findings are life-changing and they

have been life-changing for me. My day job is a pastor. And when I got into the role, I was

nose to the grindstone for years, long hours, hard days,

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