Welcome to Synchronicity. I don't know why I said it like that. Welcome to Synchronicity. A phant, a magical guest. We get those once a week. The other times is just me rambling about the Bible and other shit.

Did you find out you're the light at the end of the tunnel yet?

When you do, let me know.

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Today we have the lovely, the amazing, the patient, I imagine.

Jocelyn Perez of Urban Garden. That's E-E-R-B-A-N garden. Not urban with a U with like

urban garden. She's amazing. She's an herbalist. She knows a fuckload about plants. My sister

introduced me to her and I went to her office in Manhattan and it is just,

there's a lot of plant stuff there. I saw Wizard of Oz books and other interesting things.

And we had a lovely chat about how she got into plants, how she discovered them, how she's used

them for her health. So this is a very practical down-to-earth episode. That's pretty

cool, right? That's what we want. She's a scientist. She's empirically approaching this stuff.

Of course, what do you think I did? Yacked about imagination. But there's a really beautiful synthesis

that emerged from kind of the practical way we can use plant consciousness, which I am a fan of, as you know,

with our own consciousness, our own godlike imaginative abilities and powers. So that's what this

episode is. I recorded this, geez, a long time ago. Was it August? I hope it wasn't August.

It might have been August. It was warm. I remember that.

Shit, it might have been August. Jocelyn is so patient. I put out a million episodes before then.

I was getting to her and she didn't get lost in the shuffle. And I feel like this is the most

appropriate time to put it out. I'm just saying that because this is what I'm putting it out, but she's the best. I want to do another one with her soon.

Go check out all the links in this episode. If you're in New York, she does free tours where

she like identifies plants and cool shit around there. It's like, it's pretty incredible, really,

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