Planning to Travel for Less with Kathleen Paley EP 264

Best Laid Plans

Sarah Hart-Unger

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 756 Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

If you've ever been curious about how you can leverage your planning and organizing skills to help you save money, this episode is for you, especially if yo love to travel. Kathleen Paley is a litigator, mother of 2, and podcast host who loves saving and having fun with her family. She joins Sarah today to share her top 5 strategies for traveling on credit card points -- everything from which cards to start with, how to maximize point earnings, and how to spend most cost-effectively.Please note: neither Sarah nor Kathleen are affiliated with any of the companies mentioned on the episode, and these strategies should only be employed if you are paying credit card balances off in full every month -- otherwise they will cost you money rather than offer savings!Kathleen can be found at the Reframe Podcast and The Minimalish Mom on IG. Episode Sponsors IXL: Learning doesn't have to stop in the summer! Best Laid Plans listeners can get an exclusive 20% off IXL membership when they sign up today at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ixl.com/plans⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Green Chef: Make this summer your healthiest yet with Green Chef. Head to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠greenchef.com/50BESTLAID⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use code 50BESTLAID to get 50% off your first month, then 20% off for two months with free shipping. PrepDish: Healthy menu plans and prep instruction to take the mental load out of dinner! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PrepDish.com/plans⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for your first 2 weeks, FREE. Mint Mobile: Affordable unlimited wireless! Get your new customer offer and your 3-month Unlimited wireless plan for $15 a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠mintmobile.com/BLP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to best laid plans.
0:11.2	This is a podcast where we talk all things planning and planning adjacent.
0:14.8	And I'm your host, Sarah Hart Unger.
0:17.0	If my voice sounds a little bit off this week, it's because I'm getting over some kid stuff, but doing better.
0:23.2	And I was so excited about this guest and this topic. So I really hope you enjoy it as well.
0:29.3	At first glance, it might not seem planning, but it is absolutely planning adjacent.
0:35.3	I know that one of the things I get the most joy out of planning is travel
0:39.4	with family and travel with my husband. And I guess travel myself as well with friends. And, you know,
0:45.1	there are strategies we can do to make this better or make this more cost effective. And our guest
0:51.4	Kathleen shares some of these strategies today in a way that I felt was just
0:55.0	incredibly inspiring and eye-opening. If you have questions for her, I think you could probably
1:00.4	leave them in the comments of the show notes page and she likely would stick her head in and
1:04.6	ask and answer them for you because she is such a delight. So without further ado, here is my conversation with Kathleen.
1:13.2	I am so excited to welcome to the show, Kathleen Paley. And if you've heard that name before,
1:18.4	it's because Kathleen was also a guest on Best of Both Worlds and because she has her own podcast
1:23.8	called The Refram, previously known as Minimalish Mom.
1:28.1	Kathleen is an expert in maximizing points to travel amazingly on a budget.
1:33.2	She's also a litigator and a mother of two.
1:35.4	Welcome to the show, Kathleen.
1:37.1	Sarah, thank you so much for having me on.
1:39.5	I am super excited to talk with you and your audience today about using points and miles to build
1:46.4	really exciting family travel lives while still staying on the budget. Yes. And this does
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