This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachelor. Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang, my colleague and

co-host and friend. We're joined by Rick Fisher of the International Assessment and Strategy Center,

who's taking us to revelations at the Jujai Air Show. We begin with the Boosters, Long March 9 and Long March 10. Rick, you've reported on these

over some time now. We're finally seeing a model of Long March 9. What is 9? What is 10? What are

their missions? Quickly. And then we'll get to the innovations. Hello, Rick.

Good evening, John.

Good evening, Gordon.

Long March 10 will be China's first moon-rated space launch vehicle.

It will eventually be produced in a reusable version, but it will start testing at least in 2026,

and it will be able to transport about 25, 26 tons to the moon.

By 2030, which was an acceleration in previous mentioned Chinese schedules by about five years,

China now says it will begin testing its much larger Long March 9, which has really morphed into a kind of copy of Elon Musk's Starship.

It'll eventually have two stages that are reusable,

but initially the reusable first stage version will begin testing in 2030.

And this SLV could eventually

transport 100

to 150 tons to the moon, a real competitor

to the American Starship. Gordon, you have a

question for Rick. How far is Starship

ahead of the Chinese?

Elon Musk may have a five to seven year lead on the Chinese if they keep their schedule of testing Long March 9 by 2030, Gordon.

And Rick, the race to the moon, yes, I understand.

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