Pitching Archetypes & Top Bullpen Rankings

Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball

The Athletic

Baseball, Sports

4.9 • 746 Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Eno, Trevor, and DVR discuss an interesting lawsuit around analytics a potentially lost competitive advantage, the benefits of building a 'brain' -- internal communications system -- of your own, organizational pitching archetypes, and a few different ways to grade the best bullpens in baseball as Opening Day approaches. Rundown 3:54 An Interesting Lawsuit & A 'Lost Competitive Advantage' Further reading from a Matt Gelb story at The Athletic($): https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6216672/2025/03/20/phillies-zelus-analytics-teamworks-lawsuit/ 9:15 Benefits of Building 'The Brain' Internally 26:37 Pros & Cons of Organizational Pitching Archetypes 45:53 How Are You Grading & Ranking Bullpens Entering 2025? Follow Eno on Bluesky: @enosarris.bsky.social Follow DVR on Bluesky: @dvr.bsky.social Follow Trevor on Bluesky: @[email protected] e-mail: [email protected] Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/FyBa9f3wFe Subscribe to The Athletic: theathletic.com/ratesandbarrels Hosts: Derek VanRiper & Eno Sarris With: Trevor May Executive Producer: Derek VanRiper Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to Rates and barrels.
0:15.7	It's Thursday, March 20th, Derek and Ryper, you know, Sarah's Trevor May all here
0:19.6	with you on this episode. We're going to talk about pitching archetypes, the patron saints in each organization. Is that a good thing? Is that a bad thing? Can it lead organizations astray or is it a blueprint to success? We'll dig into that. We're going to grade bullpens, try to rank top tens, much like we did with the rotations last week. So we got that coming up here as well.
0:39.9	Show announcement, of course, two live episodes going down one week from today is the first one.
0:44.5	March 27th and March 28th, 430 start times at Bear Bottle Brewing Company, the Bernal Heights location in San Francisco.
0:52.9	Get some kayakers cove, the beer that Eno helped brew.
0:57.0	Come ask questions.
0:58.0	Come hang out with us.
0:58.9	Watch the opening day games.
1:00.2	Watch some NCAA tournament games.
1:02.2	We'll have a great time together.
1:04.4	Really looking forward to those live shows.
1:05.8	Can't believe it's only a week away.
1:07.1	Where did March go?
1:09.4	Just evaporated. It's crazy. It happens every year. I'm excited.
1:15.0	I'm excited to be there. I get to be there this year. So it's going to be, it's going to be awesome.
1:19.9	I'm going to take the longest hiatus I've had for my son since he's been born, like 38 hours or something.
1:29.4	And yeah, the first trip is always kind of interesting when you become a parent.
1:33.6	Like I was, I remember doing that at this time last year.
1:37.2	Same, same thing.
1:38.0	I was like, oh, man, it's weird being away from the little guy just because he's there all the time.
1:42.2	I remember the mother-in-law was taking care of our first.
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