Hello and welcome to the witness history podcast from the BBC World Service with me,

Reena Stanton Sharma. This program contains details, listeners may find distressing.

We're going back to 2009 when one of the last known survivors of the pink triangles

who was imprisoned in an artsy concentration camp because he was gay.

Return to the scene when more than 55,000 people were killed.

So I saw it in the distance, how they shot the Russians,

how they carried the bodies outside and piled them up all that blood.

That's Rudolf Brasder. He was sent to book and world concentration camp in 1942

after spending 14 months in jail for being a gay man in Nazi Germany.

The recording of Rudolf has never been broadcast and was taped by Jean-Luc Schwab

who traveled with him in 2009 to where the camp once stood.

Jean-Luc wrote Rudolf's biography and recorded his reaction to returning as a 95-year-old.

He told Jean-Luc about the horrifying scenes he'd witnessed as a young man.

There was a place in the camp where Nazis had organized some mass killing of Russian prisoners

and that was done by stealth, so they had to undress and then go through some sort of medical assessment

and at the very end when they were scaled for the height behind the scale was a small slot

and it opened and someone shot the prisoner from behind without name noticing.

And Rudolf was witness of that because as a ruffer he could move around relatively freely

during the day within the camp's precincts.

Jean-Luc and Rudolf met in the last few years of Rudolf's life

and he told Jean-Luc about arriving at the camp.

We were driven inside the place, then we had to get off the lorry and we were then taken into the bathing house.

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