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🗓️ 24 April 2025
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Pilgrimages are a universal phenomenon, from China’s bustling Tai Shan to the ancient Jewish treks to Jerusalem. But why? What is it about a grueling penitent march to an isolated temple that has become a prerequisite for a civilization of any size, whether Chicen Itza in the Mayan Empire or the holy sites of Mecca?
To explore this is today’s guest, Kathryn Hurlock, author of “Holy Places: How Pilgrimages Changed the World.” We also look at whether pilgrimages have become too easy in the 21st century. Has jetting off to Mecca or Rome for a quick indulgence turned them into spiritual tourism, a la Disneyland?
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0:00.0 | Sky here with another episode of the History on Plug podcast. This year, many people around the world |
0:09.5 | will set out on pilgrimages, whether the Al Camino in Spain, the Hodge and Saudi Arabia, |
0:14.4 | River Ganges, the temples of Jerusalem. These are part of a tradition that go back to the beginning of |
0:18.9 | civilization, and you could say one of the prerequisites are calling yourself a civilization. You have to have some kind of religious |
0:25.0 | pilgrimage. But these aren't only journeys of personal and spiritual devotion. It can also be a political |
0:29.2 | act, an affirmation of your identity, a way that you relive the experiences of your ancestors. |
0:34.7 | In today's episode, I'm speaking to Catherine Hurlock, author of Holy Places, |
0:37.9 | How Pilgrimages Changed Has Changed The World, to try to arrive at some sort of grand |
0:41.2 | unified theory of pilgrimages. |
0:43.5 | What does going to Chechenica for a Mayan, a thousand years ago, have in common with being |
0:47.9 | an ancient Israelite and celebrating the festival of the booths, have in common with being |
0:52.1 | an Elvis fan and going to Graceland. We see the many ways in which this ancient practice has shaped our religions and our world, |
0:57.9 | how pilgrimages have transformed the fates of cities, annoying the dynasties, |
1:01.4 | provided guidance and hard times, and driven progress as well. |
1:04.9 | But we enjoy this discussion with Catherine Herlock. |
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