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🗓️ 6 December 2022
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0:00.0 | the male genius and however terrible that person is and however many people have to suffer |
0:07.0 | from their terrible behavior, we have to somehow accept it and even like, you know, |
0:12.4 | revere them because supposedly they're giving so much genius to the world stop it like, you know. |
0:30.0 | Hello and welcome to the Politics Girl podcast. I'm your host Lee McGowan. Let's get into it. |
0:34.8 | Today's pod is a candid conversation with Return Guest and my favorite historian, Thomas Zimmer. |
0:40.0 | Thomas is a professor at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service where he teaches 20th |
0:44.8 | century U.S. and International History with a focus on the transatlantic history of democracy. |
0:50.3 | He is also an author, the host of the amazing is this democracy podcast and the creator of the |
0:55.6 | sub-stack newsletter Democracy Americana. He is currently working on two book projects, a history |
1:01.6 | of polarizations since the 1960s and a book entitled White America's Fear of Liberal Democracy. |
1:08.2 | He writes a regular column for the Guardian about past, present and possible futures of American |
1:12.9 | democracy and I really wanted to have him on today to discuss where we are in America post midterms. |
1:18.7 | Thomas's insight is always eye-opening and I wanted to share his brilliance with you, my amazing |
1:23.7 | audience. So without further ado, please welcome back my guest author historian and Georgetown |
1:28.4 | professor Thomas Zimmer. Welcome Thomas. Well, thank you so much for having me back on. That's |
1:35.0 | really an honor. It means that the first time it couldn't have been all bad because I guess in |
1:40.7 | that case you wouldn't have invited me back on. No way man. Thank you for joining me again. I love |
1:46.6 | the way your brain works. I love the way your brain works even if I don't always love what you're |
1:50.5 | saying because sometimes I find it deeply distressing. But we're in a precarious time in America and |
1:57.2 | for those of us who see it for what it is, we're often treated like a bit of a downer because |
2:02.4 | in reality when you start sounding the alarm it upsets people. But I'm not doing it to upset people. |
2:07.2 | You're not doing it to upset people. We're doing it to inspire and instigate change. Like if I tell |
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