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This is Friends of History Debating Society.

I'm John Bachelor.

Very pleased to welcome my colleague Grant Neusham.

US Marine Corps retired the author of When China Attacks a Warning to America,

Grant is in Manila attending these last days, the 35th annual conference, U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, the host of the International

Military Law and Operations Conference.

Gathering 29 Nations, Grant tells me, to discuss military law in the Western Pacific, in East Asia, but focusing all of my conversation and learning on the threat

to the Philippines. It's held in Manila. it didn't have to be.

We'll take that as a coincidence,

no reason to press more than that,

but the coincidence is convenient

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