The following program is a podcast one.com production from Hollywood, California by way of the Broken Skull Ranch. This is the Steve Austin show. Give me a hell, yeah.

Work it over, yeah. Now here's Steve Austin. I'm talking to Phil Goken. He's sitting right across the table from me at 317, gimmick street. That is my podcast location.

Hey man, award winning host of an award winning show, the amazing race. Yeah, but we're here to talk about the documentary you just made and you recreated the 1928 Tour de France.

And you being from New Zealand was we caught on record here. Yeah, obviously that was a few of the reasons or one of the reasons you decided to recreate this to the three Australian guys in the one New Zealanders.

Yeah, who are the first English speaking people to ever well, the first English speaking people to participate in a Tour de France.

There was the first English speaking team. I found out that there were some English speaking riders. In fact, a couple of Australians, no New Zealanders.

But there were some Australians that went and rode. I guess in the back in the day in the Tour de France started in 1903, amazing history.

Like incredible history, this race. It was started by a guy by the name of Henri de Grange. And he came up with this idea for the race as a way to sell the newspaper really because he thought, hey, I can take this race out around France.

People want to follow it in the newspapers or go to all these little towns. And I just being over the years become so fascinated with these athletes.

I'm always fascinated with people. I mean, you're somebody like that. You know, people who take it to extreme when it comes to physicality, mental toughness, you know, that just going to the borders of pain and suffering.

I don't know what it is about it is something about it that really fascinates me. I love where people have gone.

You know, what people have prepared to do in order to achieve something. And so when I read this book about the first English speaking team and this one New Zealand guy who I'd never heard of.

And three guys from Australia, I'd heard of Sir Hubert Oppenmann, but I hadn't heard of the other two. And then I realized that they'd traveled halfway around the world to go take on what many considered to be the toughest sporting event on Earth.

I was like, man, this is such an interesting story that complete underdogs turn up in Europe against the best riders in the world who looked down at them because they were from some country way down at the bottom of the world.

Like, what are you doing here? They didn't think I had a chance not a chance in hell, not a chance in hell. And even their equipment like the bikes they were riding.

They were antiquated by European standards because in Europe, they had the latest greatest, even though those bikes were super heavy in 1928, when the Australasians turned up their bikes were way antiquated compared to what the French had.

So they turned up, they see these guys and they were like, come on, please, what are you doing here?

But let's tell a little backstory here because the director on my show, Broken Skull Challenge, you and him are good friends.

Yes. So you came out to our set. I met you. What was a year or two ago? It's about a year ago. So you had already ridden this.

And I love your show, by the way. And that's part of the reason I wanted to come out was, again, I've always been fascinated by people being tested.

And I love following your show. And I love your attitude towards them. And the thing that makes that show work to me is that you are a legit, tough guy who has put your body on the line for many, many years.

So when you are telling these people, hey, dig in, go deeper, you know, you got this. It's real. It's legit. You know, you're the real deal.

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