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Truth Be Told Presents: She Has A Name

Phat / Fat

Truth Be Told Presents: She Has A Name

American Public Media

True Crime, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Our nation’s obsession with thinness refuses to acknowledge that the ideal, at its core, is racist. How do we get beyond the belief that bigger Black bodies are a problem? And instead, allow ourselves, no matter what size, to take up space?

GUESTS:
Sabring Strings, Ph.D., scholar, and author of Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia
Carvell Wallace, author, and memoirist
Mozell Ward, trainer at Radically Fit

LINKS:
deartbt.com
Twitter: deartruthbetold
Instagram: deartbt
TikTok: tonyatbt
Email: [email protected]

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0:00.0

Santa Claus's lap is where I first learned that my body was a problem.

0:08.0

Ho ho ho!

0:10.0

Whoa, you're a big girl!

0:12.0

The year before, when I turned six, I barely hung off of Santa's knee.

0:17.0

But now this word chubby had become synonymous with my name.

0:20.0

And Santa, this magical man responsible for making all of my Christmas dreams come true, was telling me I was too heavy to sit on his lap.

0:31.0

My body was already taking up too much space.

0:35.0

My earliest memories are of having a lot of problems with my body.

0:39.0

Writer Carvel Wallace began to understand the world's view of his body around seven or eight two.

0:45.0

Recently, he wrote about the different ways his black body has stood in the way of his happiness.

0:51.0

I was like as a kid, I'm chubby and then I went through this like phase when I looked back at it in my early 20s where I was very

0:58.2

slim and muscular and I lost a bunch of weight and I gained a bunch of way back. When Carvel was in eighth grade, he held a knife to his stomach,

1:09.0

contemplating the ways he could surgically cut off the rolls of fat from his body to fit the ideal.

1:16.4

This kid from your fourth grade class can run fast.

1:18.6

This kid's good at basketball.

1:19.9

This kid's good at football.

1:21.1

This kid can fight.

1:22.3

You don't have a body thing that you can do. It was in the way of my freedom and liberation.

1:27.0

With abs, he thought, came power and respect, the ability to be un-bothered, to be seen as human.

1:35.0

It really comes down to a question of do we get to experience our full humanity

1:40.3

as black people, and that's largely denied to folks who are deemed to look

1:45.9

inappropriate for white spaces.

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