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🗓️ 8 June 2024
⏱️ 78 minutes
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In this episode, Max breaks down the biggest scandal in the healthcare industry (and that’s saying a lot). We walk through how a bunch of pencil pushing pharmacy middlemen became so powerful they bought out the biggest health insurance companies and pharmacy chains, and did it through hiking up drug prices, kickbacks and taking advantage of government contracts. This is the story of pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs) and how they became the American Drug Cartel.
Chapters
Intro: 00:00:36
Sponsors: 00:03:14
Chapter One: The Birth of the American Drug Mafia. 00:04:47
Chapter Two: Unraveling the Supply Chain. 00:16:15
Chapter Three: Is that all? Please tell me that’s all. 00:28:09
Chapter Four: Bring it home, Max. 00:38:44
Post Show Musings: 00:45:24
Outro: 00:01:16
Resources
NAIC: Pharmacy Benefit Managers
Healthcare Dive: FTC launches investigation into PBMs; CVS, UnitedHealth, Cigna and more hit with requests for data
FTC: FTC Launches Inquiry Into Prescription Drug Middlemen Industry
Healthcare Dive: PBM practices are keeping consumers from generics savings, white paper finds
Association for Accessible Medicines:Â US Generic and Biosimilar Medicines Savings Report 2021
Lever News: Who’s Killing Your Independent Pharmacy?
PSSNY: PBM Basics
USC: PBMs Are Inflating the Cost of Generic Drugs. They Must Be Reined In
Jama Network: Costco v Medicare studyÂ
Frier Levitt: AUDITING PBMs
National Bureau of Economic Research: CVS Response: A world without PBMs: Unpacking the data
FTC: White House Roundtable PBMs
Yahoo Finance: 30 Largest Companies by Revenue
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1:02.3 | This is the analogy of source in the independent pharmacy world gave me when I first inquired |
1:06.7 | about this story. Most people probably haven't heard the term PBM, which stands for pharmacy |
1:13.1 | benefit manager. But in the healthcare industry, PBM has become a four-letter word, unless, |
1:18.9 | of course, you are one, in which case you are killing it right now. And you have been for about |
1:24.5 | 20 years. Huh, what do they do? PBMs aren't anything new. In fact, they've |
1:29.5 | been around since the 1960s. But over the last two decades, these administrative organizations |
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