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🗓️ 7 November 2014
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The Non-Calvinistic View of Romans 9:
In essence, Paul is telling ethnic Israel something very close to what Reformed interpreters see. He is telling them that God has the right to choose whomever he wills to be among his covenant people. But he is not telling them this because God has chosen not to elect most of them. He’s telling them this because the paradigm for inclusion in the covenant people has shifted, from national Israel following the Law to anyone who comes to faith in Christ. Israel feels betrayed by this paradigm shift, so Paul explains that God has no obligation to the physical descendants of Abraham; rather, Paul demonstrates from the Old Testament that his relationship to Israel has always depended upon repentance.
Examples, such as God's hardening of Pharaoh's will, or God's hardening of Israel's hearts, or God using means to persuade Jonah, or Paul are all clearly redemptive. They are also often pointed to by Calvinists as examples of God's effectual control over the will of man. In this podcast we point out that these examples, like many others, show God intervening to change, alter, and override man's will are unique (not commonplace) and redemptive (not without a greater purpose).Â
What makes an event in history uniquely a 'work of God' in a more deterministic worldview?
In other words, if all events, choices and acts are divinely brought to pass through His decisive conditioning of all things that occur (however you want to nuance it), then what is different about those things which God actively DOES and what he merely 'ORDAINS.'
What I'm getting to is the point of proof texting as often done by those of the Reformed persuasion who point to the crucifixion of Christ or the inspiration of scripture as supporting a more deterministic worldview.
The argument seems to go something like this: "If God predetermined and causally brought to pass the greatest evil of all time, in the crucifixion of his Son, then that proves God causally predetermines all morally evil events in like manner."
But this argument seems to ignore the uniquely divine nature and purpose of this particular event in human history. To suggest that God has causally determine the shooting at the school, or Dahmer's crimes or other such heinous events in our history in the same 'active' and 'sovereign' predeterminate manner that he brought about redemption by laying down his own life seems to be quite a stretch.Â
I believe God did blind Israel in their rebellion so as to ensure the crucifixion and the passover, just as he blinded Pharaoh to accomplish the first passover. He does actively intervene to ensure certain redemptive purposes are fulfilled, and our doctrine has always allowed for this divine conditioning and causality regarding the human will and the divine prerogative. But, do these examples of God's active working to ensure his redemptive plan in human history somehow prove that God likewise works to ensure all evil things by those same determinative means? Doesn't the even the suggestion of that undermine the unique nature of those divine works of redemption?
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The Calvinistic View of Romans 9:
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0:00.0 | Let my people go. |
0:03.0 | The slaves are mine. |
0:05.0 | Their lives are mine. |
0:08.0 | All that they own is mine. |
0:12.0 | I do not know your God, nor will I let Israel go. |
0:18.0 | Who are you to make their lives bitter in heart bondage? |
0:22.4 | Man shall be ruled by law, not by the will of other men. |
0:25.6 | Here we go! |
0:26.6 | Oh! |
0:27.6 | Oh! All right, it's time to talk about Pharaoh, Pharaoh. |
0:46.3 | He is an individual. |
0:49.3 | And Esau is an individual. |
0:51.3 | Jacob is an individual. |
0:53.3 | And so Calvinists often point that fact out in proof |
0:57.7 | that the corporate view of election cannot possibly be correct. But they need to understand |
1:04.6 | that those individuals happen to also be federal heads of state. We believe in the federal headship of Christ. |
1:13.9 | Even Calvinists agree with that. |
1:15.3 | That's why we believe in original sin, that we are represented by Adam, who was a federal |
1:19.9 | head. |
1:21.0 | Throughout scripture, we see federal heads mentioned, like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Israel, |
1:26.8 | all of those who represent God's chosen seed, his people, |
1:32.0 | through whom he brings the Messiah. |
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