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The Politics Guys

PG149: Iran Nuclear Deal, North Korea Summit, Torture & the CIA Nomination, 2018 Primaries, Michael Cohen's Shenanigans

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5772 Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2018

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

This week's show opens with a look at the Iran nuclear deal that President Trump pulled the U.S. out of. Both Mike and Jay agree that it was an imperfect deal, but Mike feels we should have stayed in and worked to improve it. Jay feels that the deal was far more imperfect than Mike does, but he agrees that the president's propensity for walking away from international agreements isn't the best way to handle things. The Guys next turn to the historic summit meeting between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jung Un, which President Trump announced would be held in Singapore on June 12\. Jay sees this as a potential step in the right direction and though Mike has plenty of doubts about President Trump's diplomatic ability, he agrees that after decades of stalemate, things could possibly be changing for the better. Even so, it's still very early days, and the U.S. is dealing with an incredibly secretive and untrustworthy country, so expectations should be very low. After that Mike and Jay discussion Gina Haspel, President Trump's nominee to lead the CIA. Mike acknowledges Haspel's experience and expertise, but agrees with Senator John McCain that Haspel's position on torture / 'enhanced interrogation techniques' is disqualifying. Jay disagrees arguing that much of the outcry against Haspel is simply due to her being Donald Trump's nominee. Next is a look at the Senate primary elections in Ohio, West Virginia, and Indiana. Neither Mike nor Jay saw much to surprise them, with Jay pointing out that there seemed to be a move away from extreme Republicans. Finally, Mike and Jay talk about former Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen raising millions peddling his connection to the president. Mike says that while this sort of thing goes on all the time - in Republican and Democratic administrations - he's troubled by yet another Russia connection. Jay sees things more or less the same way, and in discussing the topic he clarifies his position on Trump, Russia, and collusion. **What Mike's Reading** [Why the specter of Marx still haunts the world](https://wapo.st/2IdEAKx).   [](https://econ.st/2Ii8ayN) [Rulers of the world: read Karl Marx!](https://econ.st/2Ii8ayN) [](https://nyti.ms/2IdjRqm) [Happy Birthday, Karl Marx. You Were Right](https://nyti.ms/2IdjRqm)! **What Jay's Reading** [I'm Not Black, I'm Kanye: Kanye West wants freedom - white freedom](https://theatln.tc/2Iipx2i). Ta-Nehisi Coates  **Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible**. If you’re interested in supporting the show, go to [politicsguys.com/support](http://www.politicsguys.com/support).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everyone. Before we get to start with the show, I have a couple of administrative type things,

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and also I wanted to thank our newest supporters. That's Mike and Elliot, both of whom became

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