PG140: North Korea Talks, Sessions Sues California, Trump's Tariffs, Florida vs the NRA

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5 • 772 Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2018

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Mike and Jay open the show with a look at the stunning announcement about talks between President Trump and North Korea's Kim Jong Un. Both of the guys are hesitant to believe this will lead to anything given North Korea's track record of stringing U.S. administrations along and breaking agreements. They're also concerned that by meeting with Kim - the first time any U.S. president has agreed to talks with North Korea's leader, President Trump may be giving the regime something it's always wanted and getting little if anything in return. After that it's discussion of the suit the Department of Justice has brought against three California laws involving enforcement of federal immigration policy. In a strange twist, Attorney General Sessions is making the typical liberal argument about federal government supremacy while California is responding with traditionally conservative points about the 10th Amendment, going so far as to rely on a conservative icon, former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. Both Jay and Mike think that the federal government will end up winning in court (with Jay being more sure of this than Mike) though it's likely to take several years. After that, Mike and Jay discuss the tariffs on steel and aluminum that President Trump formally announced this week. They both see this as a truly bad move that will not only hurt far more Americans than it will help, but a step that further erodes America's standing in the world and does nothing to deal with a truly significant international issue - China's ongoing, massive intellectual property theft. Finally, the Guys look at the new gun legislation enacted in Florida in the wake of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas school shooting. They consider whether the NRA's Second Amendment based lawsuit is likely to succeed (probably not) and discuss whether Florida might be a model for more states and possibly even the U.S. Congress, where not much has happened as of yet. **What Mike's Reading** [For Two Months, I Got My News From Print Newspapers. Here’s What I Learned](http://nyti.ms/2p2IIVm). Farhad Manjoo **What Jay's Reading** [Parkland kids can protest, but they don't know what they are talking about](https://usat.ly/2p36l0j). Jonah Goldberg **Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possibl**e. If you’re interested in supporting the show, go to [politicsguys.com/support](http://www.politicsguys.com/support).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for a bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.
0:06.1	I'm Michael Barronowski, a political scientist at Northern Kentucky University. And with me today is my regular co-host, Cleveland Area Attorney and Republican Factotum Jay Carson.
0:15.8	How you doing today, Jay? I'm doing good, Mike. How are you?
0:18.4	I am doing just fine. You know, let's start with, well, I think what almost everyone would say is a stunning foreign policy development.
0:28.1	President Trump has agreed to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un for talks by the end of May. The administration quickly made clear that they were not going to reward the North
0:39.3	simply for coming to the negotiating table, that sanctions would not be eased in advance of the
0:45.4	meeting and that they would maintain their insistence on North Korean denuclearization as the
0:51.0	only acceptable ultimate outcome.
0:56.8	So, Jay, what do you make of all this?
1:01.1	Well, I think you're exactly right that this is a big deal.
1:08.6	You know, I am looking at this from a foreign policy sort of lens,
1:11.4	and this isn't a, you know, a partisan thing.
1:14.4	This is, I'm thinking, you know, just international.
1:21.2	The biggest thing, the one of the things that Kim has wanted, the Kim regime has wanted for forever,
1:25.8	is this sort of recognition of sitting down with the U.S. president.
1:35.3	So on the one hand, I'm concerned from a negotiating standpoint that we have given him, in large part, one of the things he's seeking, and really gotten no concessions on the other side.
1:40.3	So that troubles me to some extent.
1:43.3	I'm also a little troubled by what I read.
1:46.7	And again, this is, of course, I was not there, but all the reports are that this was
1:52.4	sort of a Trump making this decision on his own without much consultation with anyone
1:59.0	else and came as a surprise to many staff members to the state
2:05.8	departments and so forth. So that also troubles me that it's sort of this little shoot
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