PG117: Trump's DACA Deal, Bernie's Medicare For All, Equifax Breach

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5 • 772 Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2017

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

This week, the Guys start off by talking about the potential deal President Trump reached with Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi that involves allowing Dreamers to stay in the country legally in exchange for enhanced border security. Mike is cautiously optimistic about the proposal while Jay believes that Schumer and Pelosi may be far more interested in a 2018 campaign issue than a legislative accomplishment. Next is a look at Senator Bernie Sanders' 'Medicare For All' legislation, which he introduced this week. Neither Mike nor Jay think it has a chance of passing, and while Mike would support a true 'Medicare for All' bill, he argues that what Sanders calls for is far more generous than Medicare and would be a financial disaster. Jay doesn't disagree, though he's definitely not in favor of even a scaled-back 'Medicare For All' type program. Finally, Mike and Jay talk about the political implications of the Equifax security breach. Mike believes it's high time we updated our regulatory framework and impose the sort of oversight on credit rating agencies that we do on other financial institutions. Jay doesn't disagree, exactly, though he's far more skeptical of the value of imposing more regulations on the agencies and favors alternate approaches to incentivizing them to keep our personal data safe. Mike's Recommended Reading: Richard Posner, Leader of a Legal Revolution | https://bloom.bg/2xH97iz Jay's Recommended Reading: In The Garden of Beasts. Erik Larson | http://amzn.to/2xGEp94 We hope you’ll consider checking out the sponsors of today’s show: Blue Bottle Coffee. Sign up for a free trial of fresh, delicious Blue Bottle Coffee right now at http://www.bluebottlecoffee.com/TPG SeatGeek. Politics Guys listeners get $20 dollars off their first SeatGeek purchase. Just download the SeatGeek app or go to http://www.seatgeek.com and enter promo code POLITICSGUY today. Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the show, go to http://www.politicsguys.com and click on the Patreon link.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the politics, guys. I'm Michael Baranowski, a political scientist at Northern Kentucky University.
0:24.2	We start to week with the possible deal on immigration and border security that President Trump made during a dinner with Democrats Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader, and Nancy Pelosi, the House minority leader.
0:35.4	A reports say that the president wants to allow the 800,000 or so dreamers to stay in the
0:41.3	country without giving them amnesty or legal status.
0:44.7	And in return, he's asking congressional Democrats to agree to beefed up border security,
0:50.5	which Schumer and Pelosi have also agreed to.
0:53.5	Now, while a border wall isn't part of this
0:56.0	agreement, the president says that he still wants it built, but that that will come later. So, Jay, I mean,
1:02.2	I don't know if you call it exactly a stunning development of reversal, but what are your thoughts on this?
1:08.4	Well, a couple of things. First, I think the president's instincts on the one hand are correct in that, you know,
1:15.5	the play here for Democrats is to say we trade DACA for increased border security.
1:22.5	My concern would be, is Trump going to get rolled on this deal?
1:29.6	Where I think he sort of did last time on the budget, budget and debt ceiling deal. You know, for example, at this point,
1:36.2	it's a call it a deal might be a little premature. An understanding, maybe. We'd have to wait
1:41.2	and see, I'm sorry? I'm saying maybe we'd call it like an understanding, I guess, something like that.
1:45.6	Yeah.
1:45.9	Or, you know, discussion points or a agreement and principle, perhaps.
1:50.9	But my concern would be that when the legislation is actually introduced and ready to go,
1:57.6	do the Democrats at that point say, well, no, no, no, this isn't enough.
2:01.8	This isn't the deal we made.
2:04.5	And then sort of pull the plug.
2:07.1	And my reasons for saying that are a couple, because I think if you look at where we are just
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