PG116: DACA, Trump's Deal with Dems, North Korea, Travel Ban

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5 • 772 Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2017

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

his week, Mike and Jay start out by discussing President Trump's decision to discontinue President Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. They both agree that it's probably a good policy, but that it's also probably unconstitutional, and as such President Trump did the right thing by discontinuing it and urging Congress to enshrine it into law. Next it's a look at President Trumps deal with his new friends Chuck (Schumer) and Nancy (Pelosi) to continue to fund the government and raise the debt ceiling until mid-December. The move caught Congressional Republicans by surprise and was not appreciated by them, to say the least. Mike optimistically wonders if maybe this is a sign of a more bipartisan Trump, while Jay things that it's another example of Trump forgetting who his friends are - friends he might need in, say, an impeachment trial. After that, the Guys turn to the still worsening situation in North Korea in the wake of the regime's latest and most powerful nuclear weapons test. Jay is convinced that the US won't let North Korea develop the capability to launch a nuclear strike on the mainland US while Mike believes that the costs of preventing it are simply too high to bear and that some day soon, North Korea will have that capability, despite President Trump's promise that it will not be allowed to happen. Finally, it's an update on President Trump's travel ban, which was dealt a setback this week by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Jay feel that the 9th Circuit got it wrong, while Mike argues that the administration's interpretation of an earlier Supreme Court opinion was too narrow. Mike's Recommended Reading: - Grand Hotel Abyss: The Lives of the Frankfurt School. Stuart Jefferies | http://amzn.to/2je3jGM Jay's Recommend Reading: - The Essential Writings of Ralph Waldo Emerson | http://amzn.to/2jdNcJk We hope you’ll consider checking out the sponsors of today’s show: Davinci. Book your meeting space at http://www.davincimeeting.com/TPG and the first hour is on them. SeatGeek. Politics Guys listeners get $20 dollars off their first SeatGeek purchase. Just download the SeatGeek app or go to http://www.seatgeek.com and enter promo code POLITICSGUY Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the show, go to http://www.politicsguys.com and click on the Patreon link.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the politics guys. I'm Michael Baranowski, a political scientist at Northern Kentucky University.
0:28.7	With me today is my co-host, attorney, and Republican strategist, Jay Carson.
0:33.4	We start this week with President Trump's, or actually, I guess, Attorney General Jeff Sessions,
0:39.3	announcement that the Obama-era deferred action for childhood arrivals program, or DACA, as it's generally known, would be discontinued after a six-month delay to enable Congress to act.
0:45.0	Now, Sessions argued that the program was both unconstitutional and a bad policy that's resulted
0:50.9	in the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs to American citizens and legal
0:54.8	immigrants, which is a claim that's disputed by most economists who've studied the issue. Now,
0:59.7	administration officials have also said that this orderly shutdown of the program is far preferable
1:05.1	to an immediate shutdown that may have occurred had the states threatening to bring suit against
1:09.9	the administration actually
1:11.2	followed through and challenged DACA in the courts. Now, President Trump has pretty clearly indicated
1:16.5	that he wants Congress to act to preserve the program, and he's even suggested that if Congress
1:21.3	doesn't act within that six-month time frame, that he would revisit the issue. He even said,
1:27.2	and I quote,
1:28.1	Chuck and Nancy, referring to Schumer and Pelosi, the top Democrats in the Senate in the
1:31.9	House, would like to see something happen and so do I. So, so Jay, uh, what do you make of all this?
1:38.2	Well, I think, I think it's sort of, sort of funny in that, again, there was sort of this outrage
1:42.9	uh, on the left initially, uh, Trump is deporting, again, there was sort of this outrage on the left initially.
1:45.8	Trump is deporting children and so forth.
1:48.6	And then here we are talking about he and his buddies, Chuck and Nancy.
1:53.5	I think, look, I think it's the right decision for a number of reasons.
1:57.9	First of all, I think it is unconstitutional. The related program,
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