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Peter Schiff: "I May Have Influenced More People To Buy Bitcoin Than People Who Advocate Bitcoin" | Markets Outlook

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4.7698 Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Gold's outlook for 2026 with SchiffGold Founder Peter Schiff. Euro Pacific Asset Management Chief Economist Peter Schiff has been named to CoinDesk’s 50 Most Influential list. In this interview with CoinDesk’s Jennifer Sanasie, the SchiffGold founder reflects on gold's record highs, and shares his skepticism of bitcoin, asserting that the cryptocurrency lacks the properties of sound money. He also predicts the collapse of Strategy’s business model and unveils his own pivot to the blockchain: a new tokenized gold product. - For more, check out CoinDesk’s 50 Most Influential article on Peter Schiff: https://www.coindesk.com/business/2025/12/16/most-influential-peter-schiff.  To see the full list, visit: https://www.coindesk.com/most-influential-2025. - Timecodes:  01:14 - Peter Schiff: The Unlikely Bitcoin Influencer 04:44 - Key Moments that Drove Gold to a Record High 06:23 - Where is Gold Headed in 2026?  10:33 - Why Scarcity Doesn't Make Bitcoin Sound Money 13:23 - The Myth of Government & Central Bank BTC Adoption 15:29 - Peter Warns About the Vulnerability of Bitcoin ETFs and Predicts Strategy’s Collapse 18:56 - Peter Continues to Challenge Michael Saylor to a Debate 20:18 - The Tokenized Gold Future 23:24 - Peter’s Reaction to CZ’s Comments on Tokenized Gold - Break the cycle of exploitation. Break down the barriers to truth. Break into the next generation of privacy. Break Free. Free to scroll without being monetized. Free from censorship. Freedom without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design. Break free with Midnight, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠midnight.network/break-free⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

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0:00.0

The problem is Bitcoin represents the ultimate trust.

0:04.5

I have to trust that people continue to believe that nothing is something

0:09.1

and that they don't wake up to reality.

0:11.9

I don't want to put my faith in that.

0:14.2

I can't trust that.

0:27.6

Break the cycle of exploitation, break down the barriers to truth, break into the next generation of privacy, break free. Free to scroll without being monetized, free from censorship, freedom

0:32.9

without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of

0:37.4

blockchain that is private and inclusive by design.

0:40.5

Break free with midnight, visit midnight.net.net.net.

0:42.3

Network forward slash break-dash-free.

0:44.5

Hey, everyone, I'm Jensenassie, and you're watching Markets outlook on CoinDesk.

0:48.7

I'm joined today by Euro-Pacific asset management, senior economist and founder of Schiff Gold,

0:54.0

Peter Schiff,

0:54.6

who has made Coin Desk's most influential list this year on the back of gold's impressive

0:59.7

performance. Beyer joins me now to reflect on a standout year for gold. Hey, Peter.

1:05.2

Hey, Jen. How are you? I'm doing well. Thanks. I got to ask you, did you ever think you'd be

1:10.0

nominated on a most influential

1:12.1

list by a crypto publication? Well, you know, I've had that before. I don't remember where it was

1:18.5

where they listed me as being one of the most influential people in crypto, even though I was the

1:24.0

only person on the list that was critical of crypto, but they still

1:27.6

acknowledge the fact that I was influential. And in fact, you know, I know firsthand that despite

1:33.9

my criticism of crypto, a lot of people own Bitcoin in particular because of me. So I have

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