Hello and welcome to the TFO Football Podcast. I am John McKenzie, Joe Devine is dead,

long live the king. But joining me today is Joe Devine. Hello there. How are you? I'm dead.

It's been a while. Well, it's been at least two weeks, yeah. And you are back because you have

recorded a very special episode for us. That's right, John. So what I've done is I've

anointed you king of the podcast. And then I've come here to take from you the very first

special episode, which is with me, Ruben Pinder joined me as well as a wingman. And we spoke

to Peter Crouch this morning, which was actually thoroughly exciting. Yeah, now that is exciting.

And I think you had quite an interesting topic to talk to Peter Crouch about, right? Yeah, he's made a

film. It's called that Peter Crouch film. It's a documentary. It's on a prime video. And it's

about his career. I didn't really know what to expect, to be honest, when they reached out to us.

But they sent us the film, which comes out today. So it's available to watch now. And it's great.

It's about adversity, really. And it takes you through Peter Crouch's career. But it does it

through the lens of the struggles that he experienced at various different points. And it does

really bring home to you, I think, how much shit he had to put up as a young player, because

he's very tall. He's unusual looking. It doesn't look like other footballers. He definitely

heard that from the crowd. He definitely heard that from journalists. He heard it all the way

through his career until he proved himself as an England first team player. So at the level that

this guy, as a footballer, had to go to to win over the crowd. It's like it's quite astonishing.

And also he experiences adversity from other areas of his life as well, and which the film focuses

on. So I speak to him about that for 40 minutes. Yeah. And I think adversity is something that all

footballers face. And they don't often get the chance to talk about it on the level that Peter Crouch

has done both in terms of this film. But also this podcast, I'm really looking forward to hearing

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