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The Tikvah Podcast

Peter Berkowitz on Unalienable Rights, the American Tradition, and Foreign Policy

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6 • 620 Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2020

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Just over a year ago, Secretary of State Michael Pompeo created the new Commission on Unalienable Rights, tasked with “provid[ing] the Secretary of State advice and recommendations concerning international human rights matters" as well as "fresh thinking about human rights discourse where such discourse has departed from our nation’s founding principles of natural law and natural rights.” The formation of this commission signaled that Secretary Pompeo views America’s pursuit of human rights at home and abroad as properly rooted the deepest sources of American political philosophy and history.

Why?

In a draft report issued earlier this month, the commission seeks to answer this question and much more. The Commission on Unalienable Rights has been—perhaps peculiarly—controversial from the beginning. Critics accuse it of too myopic a focus on religious liberty and too little focus on sexual and so-called reproductive freedom. But in this podcast, we sit  down with Dr. Peter Berkowitz, director of policy planning at the State Department and the executive secretary of the commission, to hear first-hand the thinking behind the commission’s report and the conclusions it presents.

There probably aren’t many interviews out there with State Department officials in which the topics of discussion include the first chapter of Genesis, Plato’s Republic, and the philosophy of John Locke. This is a conversation you don’t want to miss.

Musical selections in this podcast are drawn from the Quintet for Clarinet and Strings, op. 31a, composed by Paul Ben-Haim and performed by the ARC Ensemble.

Transcript

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Just over a year ago, the American Secretary of State Michael Pompeo convened a commission

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on human rights, tellingly called in the commission's official title, Unalienable Rights.

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I say tellingly because that phrase, unalienable Rights. I say tellingly, because that phrase, unalienable

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rights, is obviously a reference to that famous sentence in the second paragraph of the American

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Declaration of Independence, that we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created

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equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain

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unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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Now, by referring to the commission that way, Secretary Pompeo is signaling that his pursuit

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of human rights, as a matter of American foreign policy, should be rooted in the deepest

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sources of American political history.

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Why?

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Does it mean that by so rooting the conception of human rights in the American tradition that

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the State Department doesn't recognize any others?

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What of the role of multilateral institutions in defining the rights shared by citizens in other nations.

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The Commission answers these and many more questions in the report that it delivered to the Secretary and to the public earlier this month.

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The report argues that religious liberty is among the foremost of human or unalienable rights,

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and that nations, not multilateral institutions,

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are necessary to secure human rights. Now, those two core assertions, alongside the perception

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that the Commission has neglected rights related to sexuality and gender, have, in this

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political environment, invited real controversy. Because we are especially interested

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in religious freedom and because human rights have so often been used as a weapon against Israel,

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I thought it would be interesting to read the report and have a conversation about it.

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