From the New York Times, this is the interview. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.

It has been, no exaggeration, one of the most consequential and dizzying periods in modern American

politics.

It began with President Biden's disastrous debate, then came an assassination attempt against former

President Trump. A week later, President Biden dropped out of the race and endorsed

his Vice President Kamala Harris. And now, Harris is the de facto Democratic nominee.

At warp speed, the dynamics of this entire election have changed.

Not just for voters, but for party leaders like Pete Budajevich,

who went from being a top Biden surrogate to a

top Harris surrogate in hours.

Budajaj is one of the most popular figures in the Democratic Party.

Nicknamed Mayor Pete, he shot into the limelight when he ran for president in 2020

as the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.

He then joined the Biden administration as Secretary of Transportation, but he's also frequently on TV as one of the

Democrats top messengers. Reportedly, he's under consideration to become Harris's running

mate. If it happened and they won he'd be the first openly gay

VP. On Thursday I sat down with Budajevich to talk about how Biden's decision

to drop out changed the race, what took so long and what's next.

And if you notice that I'm not calling him Secretary Buda judge or asking anything about

his work in the cabinet, it's because there's a law, the Hatch Act, that prevents him from mixing his day job with campaigning.

Here's my conversation with Pete Budu Church. This has been a shocker of a week and now Democrats find themselves having to kind of build the plane while they're flying it.

They're sort of redefining the race, they're having to introduce a new candidate, they're building momentum in the electorate.

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