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🗓️ 30 October 2025
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(0:00) Chamath and Jason welcome Pete Buttigieg
(1:31) Why the Democrats lost tech
(6:40) Taxes: Federal wealth tax, wealth disparity, billionaires, the role of government in the free market
(23:17) Government efficiency: Democratic DOGE, breaking ranks on debt, his plan to control spending
(33:01) Culture Wars: The costly role of democratic identity politics, navigating a primary with moderate views, the two Democratic Parties
(40:07) Immigration: Trump shutting the border, Biden's failure
(47:38) Working in the Biden Admin: good and bad, gatekeepers, cognitive decline, anointing Kamala Harris vs running a short primary
(52:17) Thoughts on moving NASA under the Dept of Transportation
(54:07) AI: self-driving, automation, and job loss
(1:01:19) Running in 2028, Mamdani in NYC
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| 0:00.0 | There's certain trillion dollar ideas that the private sector just won't do because it doesn't pencil or because of whatever market failure is there. |
| 0:08.0 | That's where you need government. |
| 0:09.0 | First of all, the debt path we're on is not sustainable. |
| 0:12.0 | That I think identity has become too central to how my party thinks. |
| 0:16.0 | My big worry is that if we're already at a level of concentration of wealth and power that |
| 0:21.3 | no republic has ever survived, is this going to be a development that just makes wealth and |
| 0:27.6 | power even more concentrated in even fewer hands? |
| 0:30.6 | All right, besties, I think that was another epic discussion. |
| 0:35.1 | People love the interviews. |
| 0:36.1 | I could hear him talk for hours. Absolutely. We |
| 0:39.0 | crushed your questions a minute. We are giving people ground truth data to underwrite your own |
| 0:43.3 | opinion. What are you going to say? That was fun. I was doing all in. All right, everybody, |
| 0:48.5 | welcome back to the All In podcast interview series. Last week, we had Joe Manchin on this week. Pete Buttigieg is here. |
| 0:56.8 | Everybody knows Mayor Pete, born in South Bend, Harvard, Road Scholar, McKinsey, U.S. Navy, |
| 1:04.4 | and, of course, ran for president and was the Transportation Secretary under Biden. |
| 1:13.2 | Welcome to the program, Pete Buttigieg. How are you? |
| 1:19.4 | Good. Thanks for having me. Pleasure. Meet Shumov Pollyhappatia, a former Democrat who re-underwrite his support of your party and now is a Republican. And really the spirit of this program is to |
| 1:26.7 | just have a candid discussion. |
| 1:28.3 | We like to get into the details. |
| 1:30.0 | And so I thought, I wanted to start with your perception of entrepreneurs, technologists, |
| 1:36.3 | et cetera. |
| 1:36.7 | I was watching a clip of you on Bill Maher. |
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