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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Pete Buttigieg: The Left's Identity Crisis, Wealth Tax, 2024 Mistakes, Plans for 2028

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

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4.27.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) Chamath and Jason welcome Pete Buttigieg

(1:31) Why the Democrats lost tech

(6:40) Taxes: Federal wealth tax, wealth disparity, billionaires, the role of government in the free market

(23:17) Government efficiency: Democratic DOGE, breaking ranks on debt, his plan to control spending

(33:01) Culture Wars: The costly role of democratic identity politics, navigating a primary with moderate views, the two Democratic Parties

(40:07) Immigration: Trump shutting the border, Biden's failure

(47:38) Working in the Biden Admin: good and bad, gatekeepers, cognitive decline, anointing Kamala Harris vs running a short primary

(52:17) Thoughts on moving NASA under the Dept of Transportation

(54:07) AI: self-driving, automation, and job loss

(1:01:19) Running in 2028, Mamdani in NYC

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0:00.0

There's certain trillion dollar ideas that the private sector just won't do because it doesn't pencil or because of whatever market failure is there.

0:08.0

That's where you need government.

0:09.0

First of all, the debt path we're on is not sustainable.

0:12.0

That I think identity has become too central to how my party thinks.

0:16.0

My big worry is that if we're already at a level of concentration of wealth and power that

0:21.3

no republic has ever survived, is this going to be a development that just makes wealth and

0:27.6

power even more concentrated in even fewer hands?

0:30.6

All right, besties, I think that was another epic discussion.

0:35.1

People love the interviews.

0:36.1

I could hear him talk for hours. Absolutely. We

0:39.0

crushed your questions a minute. We are giving people ground truth data to underwrite your own

0:43.3

opinion. What are you going to say? That was fun. I was doing all in. All right, everybody,

0:48.5

welcome back to the All In podcast interview series. Last week, we had Joe Manchin on this week. Pete Buttigieg is here.

0:56.8

Everybody knows Mayor Pete, born in South Bend, Harvard, Road Scholar, McKinsey, U.S. Navy,

1:04.4

and, of course, ran for president and was the Transportation Secretary under Biden.

1:13.2

Welcome to the program, Pete Buttigieg. How are you?

1:19.4

Good. Thanks for having me. Pleasure. Meet Shumov Pollyhappatia, a former Democrat who re-underwrite his support of your party and now is a Republican. And really the spirit of this program is to

1:26.7

just have a candid discussion.

1:28.3

We like to get into the details.

1:30.0

And so I thought, I wanted to start with your perception of entrepreneurs, technologists,

1:36.3

et cetera.

1:36.7

I was watching a clip of you on Bill Maher.

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