Hello, hello, hello, you beautiful smart person.

Thank you for choosing to listen to another episode of Perez chats.

I have been wanting to talk to a legal expert for a while now.

There are so many law-related stories that we talk about on the podcast and it has finally

happened.

And not just any legal expert.

So one and only judge Rhonda Willes from Relative Justice.

She is so smart and so amazing and this interview is so informative and entertaining.

Enjoy.

I have so many law-related questions that I want to ask you.

But first, I want to talk briefly about your TV show Relative Justice.

I'm aware of how things happened for Star Jones.

She used to work as a lawyer and then started doing commentary talking head stuff.

How did you make the leap to television yourself?

I'd love to hear that story.

Yeah, so I actually did another series for four Relative Justice.

I did this show on WeTV called Sisters in Law.

And it was a reality TV show that followed me and five other Black women warriors and it

followed us in our lives, with our clients, with our cases, going to court.

So it was a reality show that basically followed me and these other women lawyers as we were

representing our clients and we were arguing in court and we were having disagreements

with each other because we're all friends and we've all practiced a lot together for years

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