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I'm Bonnie, and that is Karen Ali.

Karen Ali. Tell them why you're Karenelie. Well, I was showing Bonnie how now my phone will

prompt me to write Karenally instead of Karen because when I was young, I was very envious of the girls who were like, my name's Michelle, but you can call me Shelley, or my name is Kimberly, but you can call me Kim. So I started a rumor in like second grade that my real name was Karen Ali. It's really just an adverb of myself.

Yeah. So I really was just turning myself into an adverb. So people could use that. Like the teacher could be like, okay, quiet down. I see everyone is being very carnaly.

But, yes.

Or that would be the name that your mother would call you when you got in trouble.

Yep.

Karenally?

Put those fruit roll-ups down and get over here.

And then I also, because, well, I'm not going to give my whole

name out because I'm sure we have one listener who in their bio says, you know, I deal in

Bitcoins and can also somehow figure out my social security.

But I would also put an accent on one of the vowels in my middle name.

Oh, man.

I wanted to be different.

I wanted to stand out.

I've got the umlae, the two dots.

Like the awe in Motley crew.

Oh, man, that was edgy.

So edgy.

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