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Pentecostals and the President

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Christianity Today

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.3 • 622 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2019

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Transcribed highlights of the show can be found in our episode summaries. As is now well known, millions of evangelical Christians supported Donald Trump and helped lead him to victory on November 8, 2016 in his stunning upset over Hillary Clinton. Besides Franklin Graham and Jerry Falwell, Jr., among the better known evangelicals who have support Mr. Trump are James Robison, host of the TV program Life Today, David Jeremiah, senior pastor of Shadow Mountain Community Church, a Southern Baptist megachurch in El Cajon, California, Robert Jeffress, pastor of First Baptist, Dallas, Texas, and Jack Graham, pastor of Prestonwood Baptist in Prestonwood, Texas. Until recently, there hasn’t been as much focus on Trump’s more charismatic and prosperity gospel supporters. In fact, many in these circles were convinced to vote for Trump in 2016 because prophets in the movements believed Trump was destined by God to become president as early as 2015. Two lesser-known charismatics who have been on Trump’s Evangelical council are Jentezen Franklin, senior pastor, Free Chapel Worship Center, Gainesville, Georgia, and Robert Morris, pastor of Gateway Church, a multi-site megachurch of some 36,000 attenders based in Southlake, Texas, near Fort Worth. Two prominent supporters, both associated strongly with the prosperity gospel, are Kenneth Copeland and Paula White, both of whom have also been a part of the President’s council. White has had a particularly close pastoral relationship with President Trump, starting years before he took office. And recently, she’s been appointed by Trump to the Office of Public Liaison, which is responsible for communicating and interacting with various interest groups. On this edition of Quick to Listen, we want to delve more deeply into Trump’s charismatic and properity gospel supporters, and especially Paula White, to better understand the social and political passions and concerns of this religious movement. Our guest is James A. Beverley, research professor of Christian thought and ethics at Tyndale Seminary in Toronto, Canada. He is also Associate Director of the Institute for the Study of American Religion in Texas. He has been a contributor Christianity Today, Faith Today, and Charisma magazines. He is the author of more than a dozen books, including Nelson’s Illustrated Guide to Religion and Religions A to Z, and most recently, Donald Trump, God, and Christian Prophecy: A Guide to the Prophets and Prophecies in the Charismatic-Pentecostal World concerning the 45th President. This episode of Quick to Listen is brought to you in part by Intensional. D.A. Horton unpacks how God addresses these issues and where to take it from there in his new book Intensional. Go to dahorton.com to learn more about Intensional. This episode of Quick to Listen is also brought to you by Christianbook.com, your go-to source for everything Christian. Books, Bibles, gifts, music and more, all in one place. And always from people who share your values. Go to Christianbook.com. This episode of Quick to Listen is also brought to you by Meant for More, a nationwide movement of students sharing the gospel at public school in March 2020. To learn more about how you can help equip students to reach their schools for Christ, visit Meantformore.org.  What is “Quick to Listen”? Read more Subscribe to Quick to Listen on Apple Podcasts Follow the podcast on Twitter Follow our host on Twitter: Morgan Lee Subscribe to Mark’s newsletter: The Galli Report Follow our guest on Twitter: Emily Belz Music by Sweeps Quick to Listen is produced by Morgan Lee and Matt Linder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you in part by The Apologetics Guy Show, the podcast that helps you find clear answers to tough questions about Christianity.

0:11.1

Learn to explain your faith with courage and compassion.

0:14.5

Join Moody Bible Institute professor Dr. Mikhail del Rosario at apologeticsky.com.

0:23.2

As is now well known, in November 2016, millions of evangelical Christians supported Donald

0:29.1

Trump for President of the United States and helped lead him to victory in his stunning

0:33.2

upset over Hillary Clinton.

0:35.1

Besides Franklin Graham and Jerry Falwell Jr., among the better-known evangelicals who

0:39.9

have supported Mr. Trump are James Robeson, TV personality, David Jeremiah, Robert Jeffers,

0:45.2

and Jack Graham, all pastors of significant megachurches in the Southern Baptist world.

0:49.5

But until recently, there hasn't been as much focus on Trump's more charismatic and prosperity gospel supporters.

0:55.5

In fact, many in these circles were convinced to vote for Trump in 2016 because prophets in the

1:00.6

movements believe Trump was destined by God to become president.

1:04.1

Two lesser-known charismatics who have been on Trump's evangelical counsel are Gentizan Franklin,

1:10.4

senior pastor of Free Chapel Worship Center

1:12.6

in Georgia, and Robert Morris, pastor of a non-denominational charismatic, multi-site

1:18.0

megachurch of some 36,000 attenders in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Two prominent supporters,

1:23.8

both associated strongly with prosperity gospel, are Kenneth Copeland and Paula Voight,

1:28.5

both of whom have been a part of the president's council.

1:31.1

White has had a particularly close pastoral relationship with President Trump

1:34.8

starting years before he took office.

1:36.9

And recently, she's been appointed by Trump to the Office of Public Legislature,

1:40.8

which is responsible for communicating and interacting with various interest groups.

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