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and more recently as the star of the hit series You. Here he is, Penn Badgley.

Hi Penn. Hey Aura. I've been listening to your podcast, podcrushed. Oh, cool. Thank you.

I love it that you examine sort of the early formative experiences. You are very good at it.

Thank you. It doesn't always feel that way. Certainly. I feel like we're stumbling around a lot.

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middle school stories and just think about that time, it makes it easy, you know. Well,

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