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The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

PEL Presents (SUB)TEXT: Terminal Wooings in "The Odyssey" (Part 3 of 3)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

Casey, Paskin, Philosophy, Linsenmayer, Society & Culture, Alwan

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2023

⏱️ 410 minutes

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Summary

Wes & Erin discuss the final 12 books of "The Odyssey," translated by Emily Wilson.

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0:00.0

You're listening to an airwave media podcast.

0:03.2

Okay, we are in our part three discussion of the Odyssey. We got through books one through

0:19.4

12 in parts one and two and now we're going to get through the final 12 books all in the third part probably hopefully

0:28.7

probably even if we have to rush which is something Odysseus would never do.

0:36.2

In fact, that's the kind of the way I wanted to start this episode, talking about the fact

0:40.4

that instead of rushing to see his wife and family he goes through a lot of

0:46.4

disguises and testing makes use of all his Odysseus powers for deception I think even more so than he has in the previous 12 books so even

0:58.2

Athena remarks on this she's very impressed with this he's dropped off on Ithaca by Alsanous's people, the Faiian people,

1:09.4

their magic boat, basically self-driving Tesla of boats, drops him off.

1:14.1

He's left on the coast in sheets.

1:16.3

There's kind of Odysseus is reborn moment.

1:20.6

And then Athena covers Ithaca and a mist so he won't recognize it immediately and she herself

1:27.4

shows up as a shepherd. He supplicates himself. Very usual thing. You got to touch their knees, right?

1:33.2

If you ever get time transported back to ancient Greece, just remember to touch someone's

1:37.5

knees first thing.

1:41.5

And then he tells her a lie.

1:43.0

She asks, you know, she's acting like she's a shepherd.

1:46.1

She actually then tells him it's Ithaca and then asks where, what his story is and he tells

1:51.8

like some variation on a, I think it's a different life story every time

1:55.8

that he tells to people just some made up thing but correct me if I'm wrong about

2:00.1

that but I think he's always from Crete in these stories.

2:04.0

Yeah, what he chooses to focus on is slightly different each time.

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