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The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

PEL Presents PMP#173: Cowboy Beyoncé? (Cross-Genre Music)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

Casey, Paskin, Philosophy, Linsenmayer, Society & Culture, Alwan

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2024

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Mark, Lawrence, Sarahlyn, and Al look at pop music and the idea of genre. Beyoncé is beloved enough that she can do whatever she wants to musically, but the response to her Cowboy Carter album among country music listeners has been pretty critical. Is it real country, and what is it to even ask that question? Is gate-keeping about your favorite genre always stupid?

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0:00.0

This is pretty much pop a culture podcast just adding to the lot of talking going on while people are trying to

0:14.0

sing their songs. Today we're discussing in light of the release of Beyoncé's

0:18.8

album, Cowboy Carter, talking more generally about cross genre, venturing, the sociological things, all the stuff

0:27.3

that's been talked about and written about, oh no it's a black person doing country music,

0:31.8

all the country artists are enraged.

0:34.0

See if there's something that we can add to that discussion.

0:38.0

My name is Mark Linson Meyer.

0:40.0

I think if I were going to do a cover of Dolly Parton Jolene I would not remove all the vulnerability from it but that's just me.

0:47.5

I'm Al Baker tragically confined by my own very, very stage genre.

0:54.0

I'm Sarah and Bruck and I used to be mad at Jolene, but now I think she should get

1:00.0

the heck out of Dodge.

1:01.0

And this is Lawrence Wearing.

1:02.8

I have a lot of say and I'm going to release 20 plus tracks saying what I want to say

1:08.1

while simultaneously maybe not saying much at all.

1:10.5

Whoa, whoa. So we talked about doing a Beyoncé episode.

1:15.8

We had done a Taylor Swift episode at some point, and Beyoncé certainly has as much of a cultural

1:20.4

footprint.

1:21.4

I'm going to say, this is not our Beyoncé episode. Maybe we'll do that sometime but as someone who has a music

1:27.0

podcast and whose standards are very high in terms of how much prep I want to put in. I'll say this experience of listening to the new album a couple times

1:36.7

venturing a little bit more into the old stuff was a significant step in opening my heart to this

1:42.0

phenomenon but I don't really feel like I would want to weigh

1:45.8

in critically on Beyonce's work much less you know her whole career or anything in the

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