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Letters from Sing Sing

Peer Pressure

Letters from Sing Sing

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4.93.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Dan talks to two jurors from JJ’s trial and tracks down the alleged accomplice. JJ’s story finally goes public.

Transcript

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0:00.0

My name is Ramon Aviles.

0:11.1

R-A-M-O-N.

0:12.9

Aviles, A.S. and Apple, V.S. Victor, I.L.E.S.

0:17.3

What drew another were you?

0:18.3

I was drew number six.

0:24.6

He was the one who that 84-year-old witness, Dorothy Kennedy, picked out as the gunman.

0:32.4

To me, it was one of the strangest moments in JJ's trial.

0:37.4

I got in touch with Ramon in 2011, more than a decade after JJ's conviction, and he still

0:42.8

remembered that moment.

0:45.7

She pointed me out, which was something I never expected, but it was laughed at for like

0:53.6

it was funny, in a sense.

0:56.1

I caught on to it because I saw the other jurors looking at me.

1:00.0

And when I realized I went, whoa, did she just pick me out?

1:04.2

It was like, now there's something wrong with that, you know?

1:07.9

I mean, here she is.

1:09.2

She's at the witness stand, and she's pointing at the jury box.

1:14.0

After that happens in your inner deliberation room, how do you vote guilty?

1:19.5

That's a tough one.

1:21.9

It was definitely a tough one.

1:24.6

It kept coming back to the girlfriend.

1:27.3

Ramon told me some of the jurors didn't believe JJ's girlfriend Vanessa when she testified

1:31.9

that he'd been at home talking with his mother the morning of the murder.

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