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Wake Up to Money with Felicity Hannah.

Good morning. If you're just joining us on Wake Up to Money, welcome to this bank holiday Friday.

Very, very glad to have your company this morning. But you've missed out. You've missed out in the first part of Wake Up to Money.

You were listening to, well, if you were listening, you were listening to Pay Slip Britain, which is a new podcast presented by our very own Sean Farrington.

And it's a really, really fascinating chat about how the way that we work has really fundamentally changed, particularly post-pandemic,

and especially in things like workplace culture, technology, meetings, working hours.

So we were wondering what the future of work looks like in the UK.

So we've got a couple of people who can probably give us a bit of insight into that this morning.

Abigail Marks is the professor of the future of work at Newcastle University Business School. Morning, Abigail. Good morning. And also joining me is Ross Mould, Investment Director at the online investment platform, AJ Bell. Hi, Russ. Morning, Abigail, morning, please. Now, if anyone listening wants their kind of input on this, 85058, drop me a text or use the hashtag, wake up to money on social media.

Because it's a chat that has to involve everybody, doesn't it, Abigail?

I suppose the future of work, I mean, it's a difficult thing to predict.

Tell me, do you think that the idea of that traditional nine to five is just outdated now? It's just not how we do work. It is outdated in the way that work

is practiced. I'm not sure it is outdated in people's sort of ideology what they want. But also, I'm not sure the

nine to five works for certainly many people in office jobs who have increasingly intensified

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