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Paulo Freire's Politics of Education

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🗓️ 11 April 2022

⏱️ 120 minutes

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Summary

The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 71 Critical Education Theory Series, Part 7 Just as we have learned here on the New Discourses Podcast that we live in Herbert Marcuse's world (https://newdiscourses.com/2021/01/how-not-to-resolve-the-paradox-of-tolerance/) today (and that's why it's so messed up), we also need to understand that our children all go to Paulo Freire's schools. Therefore, we have to spend some time getting to know Paulo Freire and his approach to education, now called Critical Pedagogy or Critical Education Theory (https://newdiscourses.com/tag/critical-education-theory/), and we need to know it deeply. To serve that goal, the New Discourses Podcast has undertaken a long series on Critical Education Theory, filled with several miniseries. Here, it begins a miniseries exploring Paulo Freire's book The Politics of Education: Culture, Power, and Liberation (https://amzn.to/3IJ4ZOT), published in 1985, in considerable depth, revealing exactly what Freirean education is about. Though the introduction to this book, by Henry Giroux, already counts for two episodes of the New Discourses Podcast in this broader series, in this episode, James Lindsay begins his deep-dive directly into Freire's work. This book, The Politics of Education, is nothing short of revelatory, not least because it is the book that succeeded in getting Freire to be taken seriously throughout colleges of education throughout North America. In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, James tackles the first two chapters of this book, giving a broad overview of Freire's general approach and beliefs about the act of study and two visions for education: one "ingenuous" and the other Critical. In the second of these, we see how Freire redefines "literacy" so that it becomes the site of a new Marxian Theory. Freire's Marxist (https://newdiscourses.com/2022/01/theology-marxism/) and Hegelian (https://newdiscourses.com/2021/05/hegel-wokeness-and-the-dialectical-faith-of-leftism/) roots are clearly exposed in just these first two chapters, as are his generally religious disposition with regard to Marxism. Join James to understand how Freire, through this book and his other work, transformed our education system into Marxist Sunday School, five days a week, bearing in mind that nearly all of our kids go to Paulo Freire's schools. Support New Discourses: paypal.me/newdiscourses newdiscourses.locals.com/support patreon.com/newdiscourses subscribestar.com/newdiscourses youtube.com/channel/UC9K5PLkj0N_b9JTPdSRwPkg/join Website: https://newdiscourses.com Follow: facebook.com/newdiscourses twitter.com/NewDiscourses instagram.com/newdiscourses https://newdiscourses.locals.com pinterest.com/newdiscourses linkedin.com/company/newdiscourses minds.com/newdiscourses reddit.com/r/NewDiscourses © 2022 New Discourses. All rights reserved.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone this is James Lindsay you're listening to the new discourses podcast and we are back into our critical education theory or critical pedagogy series.

0:30.0

Finally breaking down, uh, Apollo frayery, I want to linger on frayery for a while. I'm actually frankly just as a kind of a matter of confession or housekeeping or whatever to y'all.

0:42.3

I'm not particularly interested in critical education or education at all. Um, as far as like the academic side of it goes. Um, it's very important to cover.

0:54.3

I'm trying to do this for you. I know a lot of you are sending me tons and tons and tons of have you read this person if you were this person, have you read this in education and it's all stuff in like the last like three years.

1:04.5

The answer is virtually always no. Um, I'm new to critical pedagogy, uh, in the sense that I read frayery, I read more frayery, I read some drew, I read more frayery.

1:16.8

So if it's newer than like, I don't know, 1990, I probably am not very familiar with it yet.

1:23.6

Uh, I'm working my way through, hopefully we'll get to it, but we've got to spend time on frayery because frayery is like the guy you have to understand that everything you're talking about whether, you know, I've done some episodes now on social emotional learning or transformative, I should say specifically social emotional learning.

1:41.7

I've done an episode on culturally relevant or responsive depending on who's doing it teaching or pedagogy.

1:48.4

Um, whatever it is that you're looking at frayery is the cornerstone, whatever it is, this is all frayery and education.

1:56.7

So you have to understand frayery, you have to understand what's going on.

2:01.0

Then so when I started trying to explain frayery before, or if you remember the series is supposed to follow the course of the critical turn in education book by Isaac Gottsman, which I'm sure all of you have read by now because it's so much faster than me going through it, because I'm trying to go into his, the other sources he references.

2:18.2

In this sidebar into Apollo frayery, I read just the introduction to the first of the Apollo frayery books I want to talk about, which is the politics of education, which we're going to go through in detail because the book is horrifying and it's so important to understand.

2:34.6

And I realized, well, we can't even understand what frayery is talking about, you understand how Marxism works as a theology. So I go off on this whole other tangent.

2:42.5

Document Marxism is theology, long podcast and reading Luke Koch, been reading lots of other Marxists to try to really understand how this works as a theology, because you can't understand what frayery is doing unless you understand Marxism is a theology, because he is a religious figure, and we have to understand that frayery is a religious figure, he is a profit of the Marxist faith.

3:02.9

And in that sense, his character Henry Giroux is like his evangelist. I don't want to draw too close of a comparison, but I think I've laid this out before.

3:10.7

In a sense, frayery is like the beginning of the New Testament, and he's a character, and I don't want to, don't put too fine a point on this because he's a bad guy.

3:20.1

But he's like the Jesus figure of this religion in some respects, and then that positions Henry Giroux as sort of like his St. Paul, who's gone in evangelized form.

3:31.7

And these two become the big cornerstone figures in critical education. I know we have lots of other people that are relevant, you know, Gloria Lads and Billings, Bell Hooks, as we get into kind of the racial dimensions.

3:44.6

Joe Kinchelo, you know, Michael Apple, blah, blah, blah. There's names and names and names. And then there's all these kind of new weird things going on.

3:52.0

Kind of on this superficial level, you know, portrait of a graduate. What's that?

3:57.0

Gary Howard's deep equity. What's that? All of these ethnic studies, initiatives, ethnomathematics, initiatives, and so on. And so forth. This thing has really proliferated. You have to understand that we are at we're 50 years into critical pedagogy. And it has totally gone bonkers.

4:14.7

And it's really spread out and virtually every educator for 30 years has been obsessed with this. And they've been obsessed with it and filling the space with every possible nonsense thing you can imagine.

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