To make you move forward and not become reactionary, you have to be able to take those risks

because otherwise you will stand still. So not to do it is much more of a risk than doing it

because you risk everything by not developing and growing. That's really the truth about it.

It's like if you don't exercise, you're going to get flabby.

Sorry, that's the way it works.

I'm Jocelyn K. Gly, and this is Hurry Slowly, a podcast about pacing yourself,

where I explore how you can avoid burnout, improve your productivity, and activate your

creative mind, all through the simple act of slowing down.

Today I return to the topic of risk-taking, one of my ongoing obsessions during this first

season of the podcast.

And so far I've talked to Kim Chambers, a world-class marathon swimmer who literally

swims with sharks, Matthias Correa, an entrepreneur and adventurer who took a challenging

seven-month-long motorcycle trip from Brooklyn to Patagonia, and Tyler Cowan, an economist who

believes that technology is making Americans more complacent

and less open to taking big risks. And for this final installment in my conversations about

risk, I tackled the topic with legendary graphic designer Paula Scher, who was the first

female principal at the design firm

Pentagram, where she has now worked for over 26 years. As witty as she is wise, Paula brings an

entirely new perspective to the topic of risk in this episode. That is someone who has already

moved through a very long arc in a very

successful career. And as many of you listeners no doubt already know, once you're successful

and established in your field, it's extremely easy to keep doing the same things. In fact,

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