Hey, Wunderfels Welcome to episode 436 of the JV club as we return from Boys of Summer to a phenomenal comic,

a comedian, comedian, listen, just a voice in comedy that I have long admired and was so excited to get a chance to speak with.

You probably already know her, Paula Poundstone was kind enough to come on the podcast.

We had a fantastic chat.

I could not love her stories more,

even if I'm glad she survived a few of them.

You'll know what I'm talking about when we get in there. But please enjoy

this episode. I hope everyone is doing well, staying safe, and all of the other good and heartfelt

things that I always tell you because they're always true and they're always heartfelt. Enjoy the episode. You probably don't have the thing I have which is absolutely still the people

pleaser in me that takes on the obnoxious person as a challenge on a phone call

and thinks like by the end of this they're going to love me

which is a tremendous waste of energy and totally not important.

Yeah because you're cooler than I am. So wait give me an example of a phone call where you would use that technique.

Like if someone's like, okay, hold please.

I'll be like, thanks.

And then they'll come back and I go, how's your day going?

Like, it's a weird role reversal where I try to engage them like I'm going to cheer this person up because I'm uncomfortable with how

But how rude they are I do sometimes feel like I'm going to yeah definitely that I that I consider it a goal to cheer the

person up absolutely I mean I guess you're a stand-up comedian wanting to make someone

laugh is not so far afield in another context that isn't standing on a stage but

On the other end it could be kind of a busman's holiday

That's true. You know what I worked all night I'm going to be the most humorless I'm the robot now I'm the robot now

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