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Paul Tough on How Children Succeed

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🗓️ 17 September 2012

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Paul Tough, author of How Children Succeed, talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about why children succeed and fail in school and beyond school. He argues that conscientiousness--a mixture of self-control and determination--can be a more important measure of academic and professional success than cognitive ability. He also discusses innovative techniques that schools, individuals, and non-profits are using to inspire young people in distressed neighborhoods. The conversation closes with the implications for public policy in fighting poverty.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.

0:06.4

I'm your host Russ Roberts of Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

0:11.0

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0:16.0

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0:19.0

You'll also find our archives where you can listen to every episode we've ever done going

0:23.3

back to 2006.

0:25.4

Our email address is maladycontalk.org.

0:27.9

We'd love to hear from you.

0:33.1

Today is September 13th, 2012, and my guest is Paul Tuff.

0:37.3

His latest book is How Children succeed, grit, curiosity, and the hidden power of character.

0:42.6

Paul, welcome to Econ Talk.

0:44.1

Thanks, great to be here.

0:45.3

You can open your book by saying we've been looking for results in the wrong places.

0:49.8

My results, childhood success, fighting poverty, helping kids escape poverty and get education.

0:56.6

What do you mean we're looking in the wrong places?

1:00.5

Well, I think that for the last couple of decades, especially, we have been overemphasizing

1:05.1

the importance of IQ and cognitive skills when we think about what helps children succeed.

1:11.8

I think that's why we're so obsessed with test scores both in terms of individual families

1:16.6

and as a nation in terms of our education policy.

1:21.0

And the researchers and educators who I write about in the book are arguing for a different

1:25.8

set of skills being at least as predictive of successful kids and arguably more predictive.

1:31.2

You start off the book talking about some recent results in neuroscience and psychology,

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