Hello and

today we've got a special episode in which I'm Joe Devine and today we've got a special episode in which I spoke to Paul Smith, the frontman lead singer extraordinary of the English band Maximo Park.

Now, many of you would call,

will be familiar with Maximo Park.

They're a great band of the indie genre, I suppose you would call,

but with a wide-ranging influences, I think,

fantastic music.

They have a new album out in February called Nature Always

Wins, which they were kind enough to send me and I've been listening to it

pretty much non-stop for the last few weeks.

It's great. It's really, really good. So if you're a fan of Maximo Park or if you're a fan of

of indie music, then you should probably listen to this album.

It's really, really, yeah, it's really fantastic.

So we talk about that a little bit, but Paul is also a huge, great big football fan,

was a striker as a as a player in his youth and I think

that he he still plays seven aside occasionally now as well so we talk about that

relationship between football and music something we've touched on in in a few other recent episodes about that

his dad who wasn't you know really a huge football fan but did it did attend games with him

his experiences as a as a young person attending football games, and the relationship

you know now between football and finance as well. Paul as a Middlesbrough fan describes himself as an easy-going neutral as it relates to Premier

Games and sounds like he watches a game a day, so he's a bit of a fanatic, which is great.

And I found it to be a delightful conversation.

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