From the campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

Here's your host, Scott Bertrand.

Hello again, everybody, and welcome in to another

edition of the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour. On this episode, we'll talk with Paul Marino from Hillsdale

College, with a brief history of abortion law in the country. Senator Tom Cotton discusses his

new book, Sacred Duty. Kevin Portie is from Hillsdale on the statesmanship of Abraham Lincoln and Tom

Connor from Hillsdale on this Memorial Day weekend on his recent book, War and Remembrance,

the story of the American Battle Monuments Commission. But first, joined now by Dr. Paul

Marino, William and Bernice Grucock chair in constitutional history, professor of history,

and dean of social sciences here at Hillsdale College. Dr. Marino, thanks for joining us.

Great to be here. We're going to talk today about abortion, abortion law, and history. Dr. Marino, you taught a one-credit class on the history of the subject this past term.

Now we see states passing laws in one direction like New York and Vermont

and in the other direction like Missouri and Alabama and elsewhere. Let's take the first part

first. Why is there this push in some states to more liberally expand abortion access in those

areas? Well, the claim that the Supreme Court is going to overturn Roe versus Wade is the publicly

expressed concern. I think there's very little chance of that, certainly not all at one fell

swoop. And there's also a great deal of misinformation about this. It's a great deal of propaganda

involved in here. In New York, the claim was made that, it's ironic, because New York passed the

most liberal abortion law of any state in 1970, but it still required that after 24 weeks,

you could only perform an abortion to save the mother's life. And the claim was that a woman in

New York was in her third trimester found out that her

child was going to be born with birth defects. And the claim was that she had to go to Colorado

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