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The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

Paul Lountzis - The Qualitative Characteristics Are Becoming Significantly More Meaningful And More Important In Company Analysis | #148

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

The Idea Farm

Business, Investing, Management

4.8978 Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2019

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

In episode 148 we welcome Paul Lountzis. Paul starts with his background in consulting that led him to develop a skillset in competitive analysis that meant going out into the field to conduct research far beyond the numbers, leading to “differential insights.” He wanted to get into value investing and reached out to a number of firms including Warren Buffett’s assistant, Gladys Kaiser. He ended up interviewing with Chuck Royce’s partner, Tom Ebright, and after Chuck saw his work, he was put on research projects for Chuck. He then went to work for Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarm before founding Lountzis Asset Management. Paul then discusses his framework of finding outstanding businesses that are unique, different, and special. He talks about that changes that are taking place and how the qualitative characteristics are becoming significantly more meaningful in company analysis. He highlights the importance of field research primarily to prevent permanent loss of capital, and to drive greater conviction to potentially make bigger bets on companies. Meb then asks Paul to get into the investment process at Lountzis. Paul emphasizes a long-term holding period, screening on financial metrics like return on investment capital, free cash flow, revenue growth, and covering 600-700 names across the team. Beyond that, the team digs into further insights, from management elements like capital allocation, shareholder friendliness, and the quality of their operating ability, to valuation and the general level of inflation and taxation. He then dives into some examples of how he and his team identify businesses that are unique, different, and special in practice. Meb then gets into questions on risk. Paul discusses how he and his team look at position sizing and risk based on the clarity in which they understand the business. The conversation then shifts into a discussion about the current and future state of Berkshire Hathaway. Paul talks about how unique and special Warren Buffett is, how valuable the underlying businesses are that Berkshire owns, and a couple of items that concern him about life after Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger. All this and more in episode 148, including a special story about a hand he played in helping students meet Warren Buffett. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Mebb Fabor Show, where the focus is on helping you grow and preserve your wealth.

0:12.7

Join us as we discuss the craft of investing

0:15.6

and uncover new and profitable ideas,

0:18.4

all to help you grow wealthier and wiser.

0:20.8

Better investing starts here.

0:23.0

Mepp Faber is the co-founder and chief investment officer at Cambria Investment Management.

0:31.0

Due to industry regulations, he will not discuss any of Cambria's funds on this

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podcast.

0:36.8

All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not

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reflect the opinion of Cambria Investment Management or its

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affiliates. For more information visit cambria Investments.com.

0:49.4

Welcome podcast listeners. It's officially the first day of spring. We're

0:54.5

recording this on March 20th. Beautiful 70 degree morning in Los Angeles. We have

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an excellent show for you today. We're taking it back to the old school. Our

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guest is the founder of

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Lounces asset management. Prior to starting that he spent time at two the most

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storied value investing shops on the street Royce and associates as well as

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Ruane Kununuf.

1:12.8

Welcome to the show, Paul Lounces.

1:14.4

Thank you for having me.

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I appreciate the opportunity.

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Paul, this is going to be a lot of fun.

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