From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

I decided to open my eyes and look, and when I did, I was shocked me, I'm

so embarrassed that I hadn't looked earlier.

When publicists for Oscar-winning director, Paul Huggis, approached us about an interview to discuss his new movie, we said, sure, but will he talk Scientology?

Today we discuss the crash director's new film, third person, and his split from the church after 35 years.

But first on the news banter, does Netflix have a late night, and why your cable box is costing you more than you think.

Stay tuned, it's the business from KCRW.

I'm joined by my fellow banterer, Matt Bellany, of the Hollywood reporter.

Hello, Matt.

Hi, how are you?

I am good. So let's talk about The Hollywood Reporter. Hello, Matt. Hi, how are you? I am good.

So let's talk about Chelsea Handler.

Now, you know, you're my colleague at the Hollywood Reporter.

We broke that story about Chelsea Handler saying she was ditching E.

And then there was a long sort of subtle war of words between E and Chelsea Handler.

She alleging that the E ratings were terrible and not giving her a good venue,

and they suggesting that her ratings weren't so great either.

And let's just say that deal was done after several seasons of her late-night show there,

and now she's doing something completely different.

Yeah, her show on Netflix is not

expected to premiere until 2016, but it really is the next wave, it seems, in late night TV,

moving to digital services. And it'll be very interesting to see what a quote-unquote late-night

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