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Cheers and have a safe tomorrow. So there's this wonderful moment, 1976 convention, Madison Square Garden, in the hotel

nearby the Stattler Hilton where everybody is there's some Carter Aes in the elevator

now Jimmy Carter's got the nomination this is known in the Democratic Convention New York

City 1976 everybody knows but what they don't know is who he's going to pick the

running mate. The Carter campaign is doing a great job of keeping it as an ironclad

secret. How do they do that? Because Carter himself doesn't tell anyone. But a few aides close to Carter do know the day before

the announcement's going to be made and they're discussing it. As the aides are

looking around they you know they're not stupid they look around to see

if anybody's in the elevator and all he see is a 13 year old kid.

Ah that's fine no idea that Gilbertiles, who's soon going to be called Gilbert

Scoop Giles, is a child reporter for the Children's Express, a then unknown

newspaper that's about to be known because that paper is going to

scoop the news that Walter Mondale is Jimmy Carter's running mate. They get

ahead of the New York Times, the Washington Post, everybody.

We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Patty Hurst,

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