Hello, everybody. My name is Rebecca Parsons. I'm one of your recurring co-hosts, and I am joined here for part two of the discussion of legacy displacement patterns, joined by Rob Horn, Ian Cartwright, and James Lewis.

So last time, we talked a little bit about two parts of the overall legacy displacement problem.

The importance of understanding the outcomes, what is it we're actually trying to achieve as opposed to just

dump the legacy technology? And we talked last time as well about some of the organizational

changes that have to happen to both allow for the success of the initial displacement, but also

the ongoing support of whatever it is

that comes into being as a result of the displacement. And there are two other clusters around

legacy displacement that we want to talk about today, and this is really more the, how do you actually make it work?

The first of these is breaking up the problem, and the second of these is actually delivering

those parts now that you've broken it up. So let's start first with breaking up the problem.

And very often when people look at these huge modelists, it's like, how in the world am I going to decompose this? So what are the strategies that you're recommending for how to get people past that fear and actually be able to decompose this into a bit more manageable chunks.

Yeah.

And we've got several.

I think they're all, when we talk about this, the three of us, we talk about finding the seams.

So, you know, we've got this big monolithic system that's

running a huge part of the business. How can we find seams? Like you might find seams in a

piece of rock in order to break it apart more easily. And there's several different ways

of finding those seams. So I can give an example that's relatively straightforward, which is you can look at product

lines.

So if you think, for example, did some work with an online retailer who had a big legacy

system, who sold different product lines.

So they had menswear, women's wear,

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