In my life this idea of playing it safe has one has allowed me to work with many many people right because everyone I think that playing it safe is the norm and not the exception in my life I think the plane is the norm and not the exception. In my life I think the biggest thing is that I don't want to do plane safe actions that are going to restrict my work. I don't want to listen to my mind in a way that it's going to narrow what I can or cannot do, or how much I can do it or I cannot, right?

So I think the way that playing itself has shaped me is about stepping back and checking once again why this is important.

Why do I really want to be doing that?

Why what's behind you know being told no being rejected right how how do I

want to face this so I think it's really about unpacking the reasons my drivers when I'm trying to play it safe and

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Welcome to the Unmistakable Creative.

Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

Thank you so much for having me super excited to be chatting with you.

Yeah, it is my pleasure to have you here.

So I found out about your work, one because you've been a long time listener, but two also because you wrote in and I was extremely

intrigued by what you're up to because I think it's highly relevant given what's going on in the world today. It's stuff that I think, know I needed myself but before we get into all

of that particularly given the sound of your voice I want to start by asking you

where in the world did you grow up and what impact has that ended up having on the choices that you've made throughout your life in your career?

Wow, I love that question.

I was born in South America in Bolivia and I was born in the capital in Bolivia. It's a small city called

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