Okay, so let's do what you want to hear. Okay, so I'm going to break my top 15 down into, I actually didn't. So I sent Andrew a little spreadsheet. I have my top 15 broken down into four tiers on the spreadsheet I sent you. It's actually five tiers because the top five players are, there's two tiers.

So my top tier of the top 15 players of all time is number one, Michael Jordan, number two,

Kareno Abdul-Jabbar, number three, LeBron James.

I think those three players are in a class above everybody else.

Interesting.

Okay.

And I'm not going to say I don't think it's close because I think there are some really

wonderful Bill Russell arguments out there.

Bill Simmons made an impassioned one in his book.

I just, I don't know when you just look at the results of what Jordan,

Kareem, and LeBron did in terms of, I literally everything.

MVP's championships, you know, just generally being considered like this guy was the best

player in his sport for this amount of time and there's really no debate about that uh i don't know

i just i don't know i i mean kareem has more points in anybody you know that that kind of matters

i don't know how how you could have anybody other than those three.

So those are the first three.

Any, any, I feel like I should check it with you after each of these.

Just the goat argument for you apparently isn't LeBron or MJ.

It's LeBron or MJ or Kareem.

So this will be my first one of these.

I'm going to go back to this several times.

Flip a coin between Kareem and LeBron.

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