All right, welcome back to the podcast. I am joined today with a team of people. We will be talking about narcissistic personality disorder, we'll be talking about mentalization based therapy for patients with narcissistic personality disorder,

narcissistic traits.

This is kind of like probably the world's best team for this that I'm bringing on.

If I can be grandiose myself, this is, you know, I was, I was thinking about it and like, okay,

if you were really, really narcissistic, where

would you want to get your, where would you want to go to be like to get your treatment?

You would want to go to Harvard, right?

And who would you want to go to?

You'd want to go to the world best founder.

So we have Anthony Bateman.

He is the founder of a co-founder of Mentalization Based Therapy. We have Bob

Drozak, who has been kind of huge in bringing together a team to write this book, Mentalization

Based Treatment for Pathological Narcissism. And then we have Brandon Unru, who is in the trenches treating borderline

personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder.

I kind of want each of you to introduce yourselves.

Maybe Bob Drossack, you can start.

Just a little bit like what is life look like at this point,

how much clinical duties, how much research.

So give us just a brief intro.

Okay. All right. Thanks, David.

And thank you for having us.

It's really fun to be here.

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